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Silent Majority wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 7:51pm
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Maybe the picture is a fake. Where's the rest of Joe's mike stand? Paul's feet have disappeared.
I think that's an out of focus monitor in front of them. But it's quite possible it's fake.
Why would someone do that?
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Stefano1972 wrote:
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This pic appeared on FB today. Strange to see Mick using his semi acoustic. Maybe a TV show? Looks late 81, early 82 to me.

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Very nice unseen photo, I think it was taken during the Pacific Tour at the beginning of the 1982. Joe and Paul they have almost the same airstyle in this photo taken in Australia at the end of Febraury 1982
Based on this photo, the other one could be from early '82. As I mentioned to matedog, that photo is a tough one to date.
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If genuine I still think I'm sticking with 1980. When you blow the picture up it's more apparent to me that Joe has a buzz cut and his hair isn't slicked back. Paul is wearing that little pin badge with the wings which can be seen a lot on his pinstripe that he wore around 1980. Mick's hair looks very similar to the Friday's footage.

In the photo Stefano posted Joe has slightly longer sideburns and looks more gaunt in the face.
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Joe and Mick look very similar to this pic. Mick maybe wearing the same jacket.

Joe with that "1st May" "Take a Holiday" message.
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For my point of view that photo was taken around the same period of the photosession for the Combat Rock cover. Teeths of Joe can explain more but he has the microphone…
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Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 1:37am
If genuine I still think I'm sticking with 1980. When you blow the picture up it's more apparent to me that Joe has a buzz cut and his hair isn't slicked back. Paul is wearing that little pin badge with the wings which can be seen a lot on his pinstripe that he wore around 1980. Mick's hair looks very similar to the Friday's footage.

In the photo Stefano posted Joe has slightly longer sideburns and looks more gaunt in the face.
Good eye on the pin. I mentioned on fb that topper has a china cymbal on the left of the photo. He has one on his kit in the Fridays footage but not in some of the photos from the Asia 82 tour.

I thought this might be rehearsal/sound check footage from Fridays but Paul’s hair still doesn’t match. All signs point to 1980 for new, just coordinating Joe and Paul’s hair seems to be the key.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 10:02am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 1:37am
If genuine I still think I'm sticking with 1980. When you blow the picture up it's more apparent to me that Joe has a buzz cut and his hair isn't slicked back. Paul is wearing that little pin badge with the wings which can be seen a lot on his pinstripe that he wore around 1980. Mick's hair looks very similar to the Friday's footage.

In the photo Stefano posted Joe has slightly longer sideburns and looks more gaunt in the face.
Good eye on the pin. I mentioned on fb that topper has a china cymbal on the left of the photo. He has one on his kit in the Fridays footage but not in some of the photos from the Asia 82 tour.

I thought this might be rehearsal/sound check footage from Fridays but Paul’s hair still doesn’t match. All signs point to 1980 for new, just coordinating Joe and Paul’s hair seems to be the key.
Yeah, good detective work from Marky. Pinpointing when Joe and Paul were cropped could be the key. Is this new pic before or after Fridays?
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Heston wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 10:12am
matedog wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 10:02am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 1:37am
If genuine I still think I'm sticking with 1980. When you blow the picture up it's more apparent to me that Joe has a buzz cut and his hair isn't slicked back. Paul is wearing that little pin badge with the wings which can be seen a lot on his pinstripe that he wore around 1980. Mick's hair looks very similar to the Friday's footage.

In the photo Stefano posted Joe has slightly longer sideburns and looks more gaunt in the face.
Good eye on the pin. I mentioned on fb that topper has a china cymbal on the left of the photo. He has one on his kit in the Fridays footage but not in some of the photos from the Asia 82 tour.

I thought this might be rehearsal/sound check footage from Fridays but Paul’s hair still doesn’t match. All signs point to 1980 for new, just coordinating Joe and Paul’s hair seems to be the key.
Yeah, good detective work from Marky. Pinpointing when Joe and Paul were cropped could be the key. Is this new pic before or after Fridays?
Well it might be Thursday. ;)
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matedog wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 6:09pm
Heston wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 3:47pm
matedog wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 2:31pm
I'm trying to message Briggy to see if he can chime in on the attire.
Good call.
Brigs isn't certain on the photo. He thinks it's 80 and that Joe's hair is buzzed, not slicked back like early 82. Hopefully he can chime in here directly.

The main issue I have is with Paul's hair vs. Joe's. It's close, but doesn't match the Fridays hair.
I'm back to thinking that it's from 1980. Maybe Joe and Paul didn't get haircuts at the same time. Yes, Mick's hair does look like it does on Fridays. It also doesn't look staged since Topper isn't paying attention to the camera.

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BR16ADE_R055E wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 2:38pm
matedog wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 6:09pm
Heston wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 3:47pm
matedog wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 2:31pm
I'm trying to message Briggy to see if he can chime in on the attire.
Good call.
Brigs isn't certain on the photo. He thinks it's 80 and that Joe's hair is buzzed, not slicked back like early 82. Hopefully he can chime in here directly.

The main issue I have is with Paul's hair vs. Joe's. It's close, but doesn't match the Fridays hair.
I'm back to thinking that it's from 1980. Maybe Joe and Paul didn't get haircuts at the same time. Yes, Mick's hair does look like it does on Fridays. It also doesn't look staged since Topper isn't paying attention to the camera.
Looks very staged to me. Made to look like they are playing live.
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Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 1:55am
Joe and Mick look very similar to this pic. Mick maybe wearing the same jacket.

Joe with that "1st May" "Take a Holiday" message.
What show is this picture from? The "Take a Holiday" message I think was only on his guitar on Fridays and presumably the adjacent Roxy show. Here's the March 9 show in Boston:
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Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 10:28am
Heston wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 10:12am
matedog wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 10:02am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 1:37am
If genuine I still think I'm sticking with 1980. When you blow the picture up it's more apparent to me that Joe has a buzz cut and his hair isn't slicked back. Paul is wearing that little pin badge with the wings which can be seen a lot on his pinstripe that he wore around 1980. Mick's hair looks very similar to the Friday's footage.

In the photo Stefano posted Joe has slightly longer sideburns and looks more gaunt in the face.
Good eye on the pin. I mentioned on fb that topper has a china cymbal on the left of the photo. He has one on his kit in the Fridays footage but not in some of the photos from the Asia 82 tour.

I thought this might be rehearsal/sound check footage from Fridays but Paul’s hair still doesn’t match. All signs point to 1980 for new, just coordinating Joe and Paul’s hair seems to be the key.
Yeah, good detective work from Marky. Pinpointing when Joe and Paul were cropped could be the key. Is this new pic before or after Fridays?
Well it might be Thursday. ;)
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Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 3:46pm
BR16ADE_R055E wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 2:38pm
matedog wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 6:09pm
Heston wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 3:47pm
matedog wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 2:31pm
I'm trying to message Briggy to see if he can chime in on the attire.
Good call.
Brigs isn't certain on the photo. He thinks it's 80 and that Joe's hair is buzzed, not slicked back like early 82. Hopefully he can chime in here directly.

The main issue I have is with Paul's hair vs. Joe's. It's close, but doesn't match the Fridays hair.
I'm back to thinking that it's from 1980. Maybe Joe and Paul didn't get haircuts at the same time. Yes, Mick's hair does look like it does on Fridays. It also doesn't look staged since Topper isn't paying attention to the camera.
Looks very staged to me. Made to look like they are playing live.
Have they ever done staged photos of them pretending to play live? Other than those like 1976 rehearsal pics (which were probably them actually playing).
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
07 Mar 2023, 5:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 3:46pm
BR16ADE_R055E wrote:
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matedog wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 6:09pm
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03 Mar 2023, 3:47pm


Good call.
Brigs isn't certain on the photo. He thinks it's 80 and that Joe's hair is buzzed, not slicked back like early 82. Hopefully he can chime in here directly.

The main issue I have is with Paul's hair vs. Joe's. It's close, but doesn't match the Fridays hair.
I'm back to thinking that it's from 1980. Maybe Joe and Paul didn't get haircuts at the same time. Yes, Mick's hair does look like it does on Fridays. It also doesn't look staged since Topper isn't paying attention to the camera.
Looks very staged to me. Made to look like they are playing live.
Have they ever done staged photos of them pretending to play live? Other than those like 1976 rehearsal pics (which were probably them actually playing).
German magazine Bravo had the Sex Pistols stage a live pic. Also this one below of The Clash which I think is also staged.

Bravo was a poster magazine. Here's the Pistols one for what it's worth
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Marky Dread wrote:
07 Mar 2023, 6:17pm
matedog wrote:
07 Mar 2023, 5:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 3:46pm
BR16ADE_R055E wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 2:38pm
matedog wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 6:09pm


Brigs isn't certain on the photo. He thinks it's 80 and that Joe's hair is buzzed, not slicked back like early 82. Hopefully he can chime in here directly.

The main issue I have is with Paul's hair vs. Joe's. It's close, but doesn't match the Fridays hair.
I'm back to thinking that it's from 1980. Maybe Joe and Paul didn't get haircuts at the same time. Yes, Mick's hair does look like it does on Fridays. It also doesn't look staged since Topper isn't paying attention to the camera.
Looks very staged to me. Made to look like they are playing live.
Have they ever done staged photos of them pretending to play live? Other than those like 1976 rehearsal pics (which were probably them actually playing).
German magazine Bravo had the Sex Pistols stage a live pic. Also this one below of The Clash which I think is also staged.

Bravo was a poster magazine. Here's the Pistols one for what it's worth
That Clash one is assuredly photo-edited. It's a combo of other pics.
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