The Clash observations thread.

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Clash songs ranked on some ranking site. Looks like I was justified about Junkie Slip. Fun to see Play To Win second from bottom but Are You Red...y in last place breaks my heart. Rudi Can't Fail seems to have risen in stature over the years, second in our recent vote and first here...

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-best-cl ... ef=blather
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Flex wrote:
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Inder wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 11:39am
Fact check: true. 0 pinocchios.
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Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 6:59pm
Clash songs ranked on some ranking site. Looks like I was justified about Junkie Slip. Fun to see Play To Win second from bottom but Are You Red...y in last place breaks my heart. Rudi Can't Fail seems to have risen in stature over the years, second in our recent vote and first here...

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-best-cl ... ef=blather
These types of lists are tiresome. And 'Cut the Crap' isn't the Clash. And "Junkie Slip" is still weirdly groovy, and vice versa.
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muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:15pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 6:59pm
Clash songs ranked on some ranking site. Looks like I was justified about Junkie Slip. Fun to see Play To Win second from bottom but Are You Red...y in last place breaks my heart. Rudi Can't Fail seems to have risen in stature over the years, second in our recent vote and first here...

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-best-cl ... ef=blather
These types of lists are tiresome. And 'Cut the Crap' isn't the Clash. And "Junkie Slip" is still weirdly groovy, and vice versa.
I just thought it was amusing seeing Junkie Slip in the middle of that inevitable clutch of Cut the Crap songs at the end. It may be weirdly groovy but I'd say it's worse than anything on CTC as an actual song.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 6:59pm
Clash songs ranked on some ranking site. Looks like I was justified about Junkie Slip. Fun to see Play To Win second from bottom but Are You Red...y in last place breaks my heart. Rudi Can't Fail seems to have risen in stature over the years, second in our recent vote and first here...

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-best-cl ... ef=blather
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Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:21pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:15pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 6:59pm
Clash songs ranked on some ranking site. Looks like I was justified about Junkie Slip. Fun to see Play To Win second from bottom but Are You Red...y in last place breaks my heart. Rudi Can't Fail seems to have risen in stature over the years, second in our recent vote and first here...

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-best-cl ... ef=blather
These types of lists are tiresome. And 'Cut the Crap' isn't the Clash. And "Junkie Slip" is still weirdly groovy, and vice versa.
I just thought it was amusing seeing Junkie Slip in the middle of that inevitable clutch of Cut the Crap songs at the end. It may be weirdly groovy but I'd say it's worse than anything on CTC as an actual song.
Sometimes just an atmosphere or "groove" are enough to see a piece through. Micro-tones, dissonance, surging, pulsating riddims, etc. I think I love pure, child-like, nursery rhyme level, major-chord, joyful melody (did I say that well?) as much as you do, mate, but there's other ways to express I and I, and I mon thinks Clash did it brilliantly on "Junkie Slip". (is this post pretentious enough to validate my point? ;) ).
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muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:01pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:21pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:15pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 6:59pm
Clash songs ranked on some ranking site. Looks like I was justified about Junkie Slip. Fun to see Play To Win second from bottom but Are You Red...y in last place breaks my heart. Rudi Can't Fail seems to have risen in stature over the years, second in our recent vote and first here...

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-best-cl ... ef=blather
These types of lists are tiresome. And 'Cut the Crap' isn't the Clash. And "Junkie Slip" is still weirdly groovy, and vice versa.
I just thought it was amusing seeing Junkie Slip in the middle of that inevitable clutch of Cut the Crap songs at the end. It may be weirdly groovy but I'd say it's worse than anything on CTC as an actual song.
Sometimes just an atmosphere or "groove" are enough to see a piece through. Micro-tones, dissonance, surging, pulsating riddims, etc. I think I love pure, child-like, nursery rhyme level, major-chord, joyful melody (did I say that well?) as much as you do, mate, but there's other ways to express I and I, and I mon thinks Clash did it brilliantly on "Junkie Slip". (is this post pretentious enough to validate my point? ;) ).
The problem with Junkie Slip is it doesn't go anywhere.
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No fuchsias for you.

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muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:01pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:21pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:15pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 6:59pm
Clash songs ranked on some ranking site. Looks like I was justified about Junkie Slip. Fun to see Play To Win second from bottom but Are You Red...y in last place breaks my heart. Rudi Can't Fail seems to have risen in stature over the years, second in our recent vote and first here...

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-best-cl ... ef=blather
These types of lists are tiresome. And 'Cut the Crap' isn't the Clash. And "Junkie Slip" is still weirdly groovy, and vice versa.
I just thought it was amusing seeing Junkie Slip in the middle of that inevitable clutch of Cut the Crap songs at the end. It may be weirdly groovy but I'd say it's worse than anything on CTC as an actual song.
Sometimes just an atmosphere or "groove" are enough to see a piece through. Micro-tones, dissonance, surging, pulsating riddims, etc. I think I love pure, child-like, nursery rhyme level, major-chord, joyful melody (did I say that well?) as much as you do, mate, but there's other ways to express I and I, and I mon thinks Clash did it brilliantly on "Junkie Slip". (is this post pretentious enough to validate my point? ;) ).
I get all your "dissonance" etc comments and I love that in loads of Clash songs, but JS just leaves me cold. It sounds lethargic, uninspired and boring. And then there's the daft Joe noises. Give me Three Card Trick or Are You Red...y any day over that.
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Marky Dread wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:11pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:01pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:21pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:15pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 6:59pm
Clash songs ranked on some ranking site. Looks like I was justified about Junkie Slip. Fun to see Play To Win second from bottom but Are You Red...y in last place breaks my heart. Rudi Can't Fail seems to have risen in stature over the years, second in our recent vote and first here...

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-best-cl ... ef=blather
These types of lists are tiresome. And 'Cut the Crap' isn't the Clash. And "Junkie Slip" is still weirdly groovy, and vice versa.
I just thought it was amusing seeing Junkie Slip in the middle of that inevitable clutch of Cut the Crap songs at the end. It may be weirdly groovy but I'd say it's worse than anything on CTC as an actual song.
Sometimes just an atmosphere or "groove" are enough to see a piece through. Micro-tones, dissonance, surging, pulsating riddims, etc. I think I love pure, child-like, nursery rhyme level, major-chord, joyful melody (did I say that well?) as much as you do, mate, but there's other ways to express I and I, and I mon thinks Clash did it brilliantly on "Junkie Slip". (is this post pretentious enough to validate my point? ;) ).
The problem with Junkie Slip is it doesn't go anywhere.
It doesn't even start anywhere.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Marky Dread wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:11pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:01pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:21pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:15pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 6:59pm
Clash songs ranked on some ranking site. Looks like I was justified about Junkie Slip. Fun to see Play To Win second from bottom but Are You Red...y in last place breaks my heart. Rudi Can't Fail seems to have risen in stature over the years, second in our recent vote and first here...

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-best-cl ... ef=blather
These types of lists are tiresome. And 'Cut the Crap' isn't the Clash. And "Junkie Slip" is still weirdly groovy, and vice versa.
I just thought it was amusing seeing Junkie Slip in the middle of that inevitable clutch of Cut the Crap songs at the end. It may be weirdly groovy but I'd say it's worse than anything on CTC as an actual song.
Sometimes just an atmosphere or "groove" are enough to see a piece through. Micro-tones, dissonance, surging, pulsating riddims, etc. I think I love pure, child-like, nursery rhyme level, major-chord, joyful melody (did I say that well?) as much as you do, mate, but there's other ways to express I and I, and I mon thinks Clash did it brilliantly on "Junkie Slip". (is this post pretentious enough to validate my point? ;) ).
The problem with Junkie Slip is it doesn't go anywhere.
Yup...just fades in, with a heavy, heavy monotonous groove... then fades out and away...kinda like extreme drug use, no? Maybe the lads were even hipper to life's maladies than we thought?...
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muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:11pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:01pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:21pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:15pm

These types of lists are tiresome. And 'Cut the Crap' isn't the Clash. And "Junkie Slip" is still weirdly groovy, and vice versa.
I just thought it was amusing seeing Junkie Slip in the middle of that inevitable clutch of Cut the Crap songs at the end. It may be weirdly groovy but I'd say it's worse than anything on CTC as an actual song.
Sometimes just an atmosphere or "groove" are enough to see a piece through. Micro-tones, dissonance, surging, pulsating riddims, etc. I think I love pure, child-like, nursery rhyme level, major-chord, joyful melody (did I say that well?) as much as you do, mate, but there's other ways to express I and I, and I mon thinks Clash did it brilliantly on "Junkie Slip". (is this post pretentious enough to validate my point? ;) ).
The problem with Junkie Slip is it doesn't go anywhere.
Yup...just fades in... then fades out and away...kinda like extreme drug use, no? Maybe the lads were even hipper to life's maladies than we thought?...
You're using that argument that I use for Bittersweet Symphony and Starship where the music reflects the subject matter. The problem is the end result has to be listenable.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:20pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:11pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:01pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 7:21pm


I just thought it was amusing seeing Junkie Slip in the middle of that inevitable clutch of Cut the Crap songs at the end. It may be weirdly groovy but I'd say it's worse than anything on CTC as an actual song.
Sometimes just an atmosphere or "groove" are enough to see a piece through. Micro-tones, dissonance, surging, pulsating riddims, etc. I think I love pure, child-like, nursery rhyme level, major-chord, joyful melody (did I say that well?) as much as you do, mate, but there's other ways to express I and I, and I mon thinks Clash did it brilliantly on "Junkie Slip". (is this post pretentious enough to validate my point? ;) ).
The problem with Junkie Slip is it doesn't go anywhere.
Yup...just fades in... then fades out and away...kinda like extreme drug use, no? Maybe the lads were even hipper to life's maladies than we thought?...
You're using that argument that I use for Bittersweet Symphony and Starship where the music reflects the subject matter. The problem is the end result has to be listenable.
"Bittersweet Symphony" I have no opinion on - it's OK. "We Built This City..." has nothing to do with basic, primal rock n' roll, so I'm not reading you, mate. And with "Junkie Slip" - it's your body that's doing the listening (literally, in my estimation, cuz I think it grooves; but maybe the band had that feeling as well, visa vis drug addiction).
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muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:26pm
Heston wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:20pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:11pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 8:01pm

Sometimes just an atmosphere or "groove" are enough to see a piece through. Micro-tones, dissonance, surging, pulsating riddims, etc. I think I love pure, child-like, nursery rhyme level, major-chord, joyful melody (did I say that well?) as much as you do, mate, but there's other ways to express I and I, and I mon thinks Clash did it brilliantly on "Junkie Slip". (is this post pretentious enough to validate my point? ;) ).
The problem with Junkie Slip is it doesn't go anywhere.
Yup...just fades in... then fades out and away...kinda like extreme drug use, no? Maybe the lads were even hipper to life's maladies than we thought?...
You're using that argument that I use for Bittersweet Symphony and Starship where the music reflects the subject matter. The problem is the end result has to be listenable.
"Bittersweet Symphony" I have no opinion on - it's OK. "We Built This City..." has nothing to do with basic, primal rock n' roll, so I'm not reading you, mate. And with "Junkie Slip" - it's your body that's doing the listening (literally, in my estimation, cuz I think it grooves; but maybe the band had that feeling as well, visa vis drug addiction).
You obviously haven't unlocked the Starship Code.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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