The Clash observations thread.

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FHTE is all good, great CC and Mag 7, but i think overall the StH would just tip the scales for me. All round I think it is a quite epic performance.

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Low Down Low wrote:
25 Jan 2022, 5:58pm
FHTE is all good, great CC and Mag 7, but i think overall the StH would just tip the scales for me. All round I think it is a quite epic performance.
CC is the winner for me, just totally inspired. City of the Dead rocks hard too, so much better than the record.
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Heston wrote:
25 Jan 2022, 6:13pm
Low Down Low wrote:
25 Jan 2022, 5:58pm
FHTE is all good, great CC and Mag 7, but i think overall the StH would just tip the scales for me. All round I think it is a quite epic performance.
CC is the winner for me, just totally inspired. City of the Dead rocks hard too, so much better than the record.
I agree, especially about City of the Dead. I heard the FHTE version first and was disappointed when I finally heard the studio version.

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(WM) iHP & StH for me.
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Marky Dread wrote:
25 Jan 2022, 6:19pm
(WM) iHP & StH for me.
Was just going to reply and add WM, simply phenomenal performance.

1. STH
2. CC
3. WMIHP

But very little between them all.

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Heston wrote:
25 Jan 2022, 6:13pm
Low Down Low wrote:
25 Jan 2022, 5:58pm
FHTE is all good, great CC and Mag 7, but i think overall the StH would just tip the scales for me. All round I think it is a quite epic performance.
CC is the winner for me, just totally inspired. City of the Dead rocks hard too, so much better than the record.
Love just about any version of CC, but yeah, this one is really good. COTD is right up there for me as well, as is WMIHP.
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I hate to say this but Terry gave WMIHP a little bit of a jaunty swing which I liked.
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Heston wrote:
25 Jan 2022, 9:00pm
I hate to say this but Terry gave WMIHP a little bit of a jaunty swing which I liked.
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Tommy Gun would have been as equally perfect an opener to GEER as SEH.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 7:21pm
Tommy Gun would have been as equally perfect an opener to GEER as SEH.
Agreed. Then leave SEH to open side 2. GEER was always too front-loaded.
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Heston wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 7:47pm
matedog wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 7:21pm
Tommy Gun would have been as equally perfect an opener to GEER as SEH.
Agreed. Then leave SEH to open side 2. GEER was always too front-loaded.
Should've found room for "Pressure Drop" on that album.
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Marky Dread wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 8:53pm
Heston wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 7:47pm
matedog wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 7:21pm
Tommy Gun would have been as equally perfect an opener to GEER as SEH.
Agreed. Then leave SEH to open side 2. GEER was always too front-loaded.
Should've found room for "Pressure Drop" on that album.
And maybe The Prisoner and Jail Guitar Doors. Julie and Drug Stabbing time should have been the b-sides in 78.
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Heston wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 9:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 8:53pm
Heston wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 7:47pm
matedog wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 7:21pm
Tommy Gun would have been as equally perfect an opener to GEER as SEH.
Agreed. Then leave SEH to open side 2. GEER was always too front-loaded.
Should've found room for "Pressure Drop" on that album.
And maybe The Prisoner and Jail Guitar Doors. Julie and Drug Stabbing time should have been the b-sides in 78.
I really like "Julie".
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Marky Dread wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 9:14pm
Heston wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 9:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 8:53pm
Heston wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 7:47pm
matedog wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 7:21pm
Tommy Gun would have been as equally perfect an opener to GEER as SEH.
Agreed. Then leave SEH to open side 2. GEER was always too front-loaded.
Should've found room for "Pressure Drop" on that album.
And maybe The Prisoner and Jail Guitar Doors. Julie and Drug Stabbing time should have been the b-sides in 78.
I really like "Julie".
Me too, but it's lightweight in writing and production compared to the rest of the album. This "slab of hate" deserves meaner songs.
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Heston wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 9:22pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 9:14pm
Heston wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 9:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 8:53pm
Heston wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 7:47pm


Agreed. Then leave SEH to open side 2. GEER was always too front-loaded.
Should've found room for "Pressure Drop" on that album.
And maybe The Prisoner and Jail Guitar Doors. Julie and Drug Stabbing time should have been the b-sides in 78.
I really like "Julie".
Me too, but it's lightweight in writing and production compared to the rest of the album. This "slab of hate" deserves meaner songs.
Maybe. Personally "Julie" works in giving the album some room and a break from the bombast. That's why I think "Pressure Drop" should've been on it. I guess it may have looked like a similar move with the first album including "Police & Thieves".

I often wonder what the demo of "Tommy Gun" sounded like plus a few others that have never seen the light of day. I mean there had to be other takes, right?
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