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I don't know if this has been posted before, and I am far too lazy to look and see, but here is a 19 minute video of the Clash in Brighton May 25, 1977. The video quality isn't great, the sound quality isn't great. Found this on a torrent site the other day.
https://mega.nz/file/So8SWBpL#NG65Cy7dk ... 4Oo8hkC_oc
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weller259 wrote:
19 Jun 2023, 9:53pm
I don't know if this has been posted before, and I am far too lazy to look and see, but here is a 19 minute video of the Clash in Brighton May 25, 1977. The video quality isn't great, the sound quality isn't great. Found this on a torrent site the other day.
https://mega.nz/file/So8SWBpL#NG65Cy7dk ... 4Oo8hkC_oc
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Thanks! Given the time frame and all, I thought the quality of the video and sound weren't bad at all.

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weller259 wrote:
19 Jun 2023, 9:53pm
I don't know if this has been posted before, and I am far too lazy to look and see, but here is a 19 minute video of the Clash in Brighton May 25, 1977. The video quality isn't great, the sound quality isn't great. Found this on a torrent site the other day.
https://mega.nz/file/So8SWBpL#NG65Cy7dk ... 4Oo8hkC_oc
Thanks, your version is a bit better than one I downloaded from YT years ago.
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I don't know how anyone could listen to the Lyceum show from the SS box and still think that Paul couldn't play.
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I don't know how anyone could listen to the Lyceum show from the SS box and still think that Paul couldn't play.
What songs/parts I’m particular stick out?
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
23 Jun 2023, 3:40pm
Kory wrote:
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I don't know how anyone could listen to the Lyceum show from the SS box and still think that Paul couldn't play.
What songs/parts I’m particular stick out?
Nothing shocking really, I was just listening to it while doing some work and I think it was during English Civil War that I pricked up my ears, and then Stay Free drove it home. But the bass sounds great, it doesn't have that farty sound that a lot of people criticize him for live, he's solid, and playing way more than just root notes. Of course that's required in Stay Free, but it just made me kind of laugh to think of people that think he's not good at his instrument. He's not as good at it as Mick, of course (and I still think I can tell when Mick is playing on record vs. Paul), but certainly capable.
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Kory wrote:
23 Jun 2023, 3:56pm
matedog wrote:
23 Jun 2023, 3:40pm
Kory wrote:
23 Jun 2023, 3:39pm
I don't know how anyone could listen to the Lyceum show from the SS box and still think that Paul couldn't play.
What songs/parts I’m particular stick out?
Nothing shocking really, I was just listening to it while doing some work and I think it was during English Civil War that I pricked up my ears, and then Stay Free drove it home. But the bass sounds great, it doesn't have that farty sound that a lot of people criticize him for live, he's solid, and playing way more than just root notes. Of course that's required in Stay Free, but it just made me kind of laugh to think of people that think he's not good at his instrument. He's not as good at it as Mick, of course (and I still think I can tell when Mick is playing on record vs. Paul), but certainly capable.
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Geers Kevin and I on the sophomore
Did I miss S/T? Good stuff guys. Never really thought about the humbling lyrics of SEH making the call to arms on ECW that much more impactful. Still can’t get into anything after track three though…
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
01 Aug 2023, 1:00am
Silent Majority wrote:
28 Jul 2023, 2:06am


Geers Kevin and I on the sophomore
Did I miss S/T? Good stuff guys. Never really thought about the humbling lyrics of SEH making the call to arms on ECW that much more impactful. Still can’t get into anything after track three though…
We reach...

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Let's ask AI about Clash minutiae.

Q: What is the song Joe Strummer - Cowboy Mouth really, about CHATGPT?
"Cowboy Mouth" is a song by Joe Strummer, the former lead vocalist of The Clash. The song appears on his solo album "Earthquake Weather," which was released in 1989. Like many artistic works, the interpretation of song lyrics can vary based on individual perspectives, but I can offer you a general analysis of the song's themes and potential meanings.

"Cowboy Mouth" is known for its enigmatic and metaphorical lyrics, making it open to multiple interpretations. The song touches on themes of identity, communication, and personal struggles. Some possible interpretations include:

Identity and Authenticity: The term "Cowboy Mouth" can be seen as a metaphor for someone who is outspoken, honest, and unafraid to speak their mind. The song might explore the idea of staying true to oneself and expressing one's thoughts and feelings openly.

Communication and Expression: The song's lyrics mention "talking with the cowboy mouth," which could reflect the importance of open and honest communication. It might suggest that real understanding and connection come from expressing oneself genuinely, without filtering thoughts or words.

Individualism and Rejection of Conformity: The song could be a commentary on the pressure to conform to societal norms and expectations. The "cowboy mouth" could symbolize a rejection of these norms in favor of individuality and nonconformity.

Struggles and Challenges: The lyrics allude to struggles and battles, such as "cowboy's lonely fight." This could represent the personal battles and challenges we all face in life, and the song might be about finding the strength to confront and overcome them.

Joe Strummer's Personal Expression: Given that Joe Strummer was a highly influential musician known for his outspoken nature and commitment to his beliefs, the song might also reflect his own experiences and perspectives as an artist and individual.

It's worth noting that Joe Strummer's lyrics often contain layers of meaning and can be quite poetic and abstract. The song's interpretation can also be influenced by the listener's personal experiences and emotions. As with any work of art, there is no definitive "correct" interpretation, and listeners are encouraged to find their own connections and meanings within the lyrics.
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Lmao, amazing
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What do Paul Simonons vocals sound like?
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Paul Simonon's vocals are characterized by a distinctive raspy quality that adds a raw and emotive element to his singing. His voice has a rugged and gritty texture that fits well with the punk and rock genres that The Clash were known for. While not traditionally known as a lead vocalist, Simonon's occasional lead vocal performances brought a unique flavor to The Clash's songs.

Here are some key characteristics of Paul Simonon's vocals:

Raspy Tone: Simonon's voice has a rough and raspy quality that can evoke a sense of urgency and intensity. This texture gives his vocals a gritty and lived-in quality that aligns with the rebellious spirit of punk music.

Expressive Emotion: Simonon's singing often carries a sense of emotion and conviction. His vocals can convey feelings of anger, frustration, or even vulnerability, depending on the song's context.

Limited Range: While Simonon's vocal range might not be as expansive as some professional singers, his voice has a unique character that works well within The Clash's energetic and passionate music.

Punk Aesthetic: Simonon's vocals align with the DIY ethos of punk music. His singing is more about conveying emotion and attitude rather than adhering to traditional notions of vocal technicality.

Occasional Lead Vocals: Paul Simonon took lead vocal duties on a few songs for The Clash, such as "Guns of Brixton" and "Look Here." These performances showcase his distinct vocal style and offer a contrast to the lead vocals of other band members like Joe Strummer and Mick Jones.

In summary, Paul Simonon's vocals are an integral part of The Clash's sonic identity. His raspy and emotive singing style contributed to the band's raw energy and rebellious attitude, making his occasional lead vocal performances stand out in the band's catalog.
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