The Clash observations thread.

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I love the Right Profile.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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The Right Profile from 2:58 to 3:11 is possibly my favourite Clash bit ever.
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Heston wrote:
10 Aug 2020, 8:27am
I love the Right Profile.
Me too.
so don't complain about your useless employment
Jack it in forever tonight


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Heston wrote:
10 Aug 2020, 8:27am
I love the Right Profile.
Fabulous track. Nothing on CtC comes close.
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oliver wrote:
10 Aug 2020, 8:44am
The Right Profile from 2:58 to 3:11 is possibly my favourite Clash bit ever.
This vocal Performance ist unbelieveable, but lets not forget 2:02-2:20
That damn piano is utter perfection in this song

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oliver wrote:
10 Aug 2020, 8:44am
The Right Profile from 2:58 to 3:11 is possibly my favourite Clash bit ever.
I've only got one thing to say to this:

Aghhh aggghhh ghhibbb ghhhaah slurrrahhhhh!

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Low Down Low wrote:
12 Aug 2020, 4:49am
oliver wrote:
10 Aug 2020, 8:44am
The Right Profile from 2:58 to 3:11 is possibly my favourite Clash bit ever.
I've only got one thing to say to this:

Aghhh aggghhh ghhibbb ghhhaah slurrrahhhhh!
I like to think he's saying: I'm too fucked up... slarrrggghhh
Putting a little stick about. Putting the frighteners on flash little twerps

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I like to think he's saying: I've settled out of court, arrrrrrghhhhhhhhhh gggggggg bbbbb arrrrrghhhhh!
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oliver wrote:
12 Aug 2020, 8:51am
Low Down Low wrote:
12 Aug 2020, 4:49am
oliver wrote:
10 Aug 2020, 8:44am
The Right Profile from 2:58 to 3:11 is possibly my favourite Clash bit ever.
I've only got one thing to say to this:

Aghhh aggghhh ghhibbb ghhhaah slurrrahhhhh!
I like to think he's saying: I'm too fucked up... slarrrggghhh
I think along those lines alright....in the context i was using it, it meant i entirely agree with you 1 million per cent.

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Re: Mogador 2nd night tape (24/09/1981)
Final encore Straight to hell, janie Jones, pressure drop, garageland

Long thought to be a fragment of a 1982 show
I think it WAS Mogador all along
The playing that night is very distinctive
Janie Jones has a rearranged drum part that is in character with 24/9/81 but totally out of keeping with the wombat cock tour

I know this means Straight to hell was written earlier

Thoughts?

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Tim Bucknall wrote:
13 Aug 2020, 6:01pm
Re: Mogador 2nd night tape (24/09/1981)
Final encore Straight to hell, janie Jones, pressure drop, garageland

Long thought to be a fragment of a 1982 show
I think it WAS Mogador all along
The playing that night is very distinctive
Janie Jones has a rearranged drum part that is in character with 24/9/81 but totally out of keeping with the wombat cock tour

I know this means Straight to hell was written earlier

Thoughts?
It definitely belongs to 1982, more specifically the Detroit show, 16/08/82. All the arrangements of the songs in the encore are what Terry did, and of course the whole thing of Straight to Hell. Everything we know of that song is that it was written around New Years.

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River wrote:
13 Aug 2020, 6:13pm
Tim Bucknall wrote:
13 Aug 2020, 6:01pm
Re: Mogador 2nd night tape (24/09/1981)
Final encore Straight to hell, janie Jones, pressure drop, garageland

Long thought to be a fragment of a 1982 show
I think it WAS Mogador all along
The playing that night is very distinctive
Janie Jones has a rearranged drum part that is in character with 24/9/81 but totally out of keeping with the wombat cock tour

I know this means Straight to hell was written earlier

Thoughts?
It definitely belongs to 1982, more specifically the Detroit show, 16/08/82. All the arrangements of the songs in the encore are what Terry did, and of course the whole thing of Straight to Hell. Everything we know of that song is that it was written around New Years.
I can recognize Terry's butchering of STH in a split second. I'll dust it off, but it sounds like you've already confirmed it.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Yup already regretting that post :D
I’m blaming the heatwave for melting my remaining brain cell
The reverb on Janie Jones made me hear extra beats that aren’t there

Thanks for the detroit info
I didn’t know it was a known show ( not mentioned on BMC)

In conclusion...err go listen to my repaired version of hong kong

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Tim Bucknall wrote:
14 Aug 2020, 4:43am
Yup already regretting that post :D
I’m blaming the heatwave for melting my remaining brain cell
The reverb on Janie Jones made me hear extra beats that aren’t there

Thanks for the detroit info
I didn’t know it was a known show ( not mentioned on BMC)

In conclusion...err go listen to my repaired version of hong kong
You can never mistake Terry over Topper. ;)
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This very old list on Uncut had some cool info/details I hadn't read before:
SIMON MORAN: Joe used to play “Safe European Home” all the time in his solo sets, and the fact he did so many different interpretations only goes to show what a great song it was. The melody is ridiculously catchy and the lyrics are pure Clash. I know it’s one of Bruce Springsteen’s personal favourites, too, because he’d agreed to be a special guest when MTV were considering doing a special Storytellers programme on Joe. It’s a shame it never happened – I’m sure he would have had some interesting things to say about The Clash and he promised to perform “Safe European Home” and a couple of other songs with Joe.
(Somebody Got Murdered) STEVE ERICKSON: With all due respect to The Who and Led Zep, and notwithstanding my unreasoning adoration of Mott and The Jesus And Mary Chain, this song shows as much as any why, after The Beatles, Stones and Kinks, The Clash are the greatest British band. It was written for the William Friedkin movie Cruising but was never used. In any event, here they had the integrity to cast everything they were about to the winds of moral ambiguity, confronting the consequences of the violence implicit not only in their music but the movement they led. When the guns of Brixton get fired, someone gets dead, and not just for the duration of an album. “I’ve been very hungry/But not enough to kill,” is all the more moving for how it’s equal parts weariness and defiance, for how you can hear both the singer’s hunger and the determination to hold on to his humanity anyway.
JONES: But it was the pivotal track on that album. It’s like “London Calling” is at the top and it encompasses all the rest, like an umbrella, like the world in microcosm. With the backwards guitar solo I was thinking of trying to be like The Creation. I was into all that, like playing the guitar with a violin bow which I did on “I’m Not Down”.
DON LETTS: This was the first music video I ever directed. I’ll tell you a secret: it was all done by mistake. Because it was the first one I’d ever done, I was sort of making it up as I went along. We went down to the Thames to shoot the bloody thing but we didn’t know the Thames had a tide. You’re talking to a man who can’t swim here! So we got there and the river had gone down 10 feet. Then we had to fill things on the boat to get it up. Then it started to piss with rain, all by chance. But if those things hadn’t happened, it wouldn’t have been the video that it was. Like everything with punk rock, we made our problems our assets.

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