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matedog wrote:
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101Walterton wrote:
Heston wrote:From TeddyB on Snews....

Latest report is that Shea Stadium CD is to feature in the complete show from the second day. Technical problems with the first show (semi-fancy words for "buzzing" throughout the tapes) led to the decision. That's all I heard from Mick -- didn't discuss release date or DVD/Video component. Oh, and he thinks it sounds really good.
Is that different from the show the Shea video clips of Career Op's etc.. come from ?
Same one as that and the SISOSIG official promo vid, although they'll be speed-corrected at last. Actually SISOSIG already had a speed-corrected snippet appear in (Westway?). Letts filmed the whole show, so that's the video source that was originally intended for the home video dual release of the album back in '83 when it was intended as their big inter-album stopgap release. Hence the vid's probably going to have a lot of amplified crowd noise and probably some shots of the band like with the top-down convertible ride that appears in the SISOSIG promo vid.
Speed corrected? Were they too slow?
Alvin & The Chipmunks, or Bernie castration.

SISOSIG is one of the worst sped-up recordings I've ever seen. It's like at 1910 silent film speed, and it's impossible to not snicker at Mick's blinking rate or Joe's hands while playing guitar. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?

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Rat Patrol wrote:
matedog wrote:
Rat Patrol wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
Heston wrote:From TeddyB on Snews....

Latest report is that Shea Stadium CD is to feature in the complete show from the second day. Technical problems with the first show (semi-fancy words for "buzzing" throughout the tapes) led to the decision. That's all I heard from Mick -- didn't discuss release date or DVD/Video component. Oh, and he thinks it sounds really good.
Is that different from the show the Shea video clips of Career Op's etc.. come from ?
Same one as that and the SISOSIG official promo vid, although they'll be speed-corrected at last. Actually SISOSIG already had a speed-corrected snippet appear in (Westway?). Letts filmed the whole show, so that's the video source that was originally intended for the home video dual release of the album back in '83 when it was intended as their big inter-album stopgap release. Hence the vid's probably going to have a lot of amplified crowd noise and probably some shots of the band like with the top-down convertible ride that appears in the SISOSIG promo vid.
Speed corrected? Were they too slow?
Alvin & The Chipmunks, or Bernie castration.

SISOSIG is one of the worst sped-up recordings I've ever seen. It's like at 1910 silent film speed, and it's impossible to not snicker at Mick's blinking rate or Joe's hands while playing guitar. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
Oh yes, quite obvious.
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The Career Opportunities video always sounded like it was just Mick singing.

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Jimmy Jazz wrote:The Career Opportunities video always sounded like it was just Mick singing.
Nothing wrong with that, it's probably the best live version I've heard of it. They seemed to be in control rather than blustering through at 100mph.
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This is my 1st post back at Satch's after along hiatus, but i"ve never stopped checking in every now and then....

Shea Stadium, huh? I have virtually no interest in that. With Terry on the drums, its going to be boring as all hell and sound like a Clash cover band, not The Clash. Why do they keep doing this? Doesn't Topper have any say? It must be pretty depressing for him to have these live releases with a completely fill-in, inferior drummer coming out (FHTE was dominated by Terry and was an almost worthless release as a result). Does Mick have no clue about how much better they were with Topper? I just don't get it.
I can only hope and pray that they follow this up with Lewisham 1980 and the Lyceum 1978, two smokin' hot performances. Bonds would be much smarter than Shea Stadium as well, its a more well-known "event" in their career anyway. They should just do a live boxset and get it over with, clear the house...... but that would make too much sense, that would never happen with this lot....aaarrgh!

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I'm all for Lewisham or the Lyceum coming out, but that Bonds performance is well out of tune in places, I find it hard to listen to.
Yes, Terry's playing wasn't the greatest on the '82 tours, but Joe's singing was top-notch and the band had sorted their tempo problems out. I'm still looking forward to it if it ever comes out.
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I'd welcome any Clash release. Is the FHTE 2 outtakes version of Police On My Back from this show? I always liked that version.

Hopefully more are to come after this one. Is Sony planning to release more shows from the vault in a bootleg series style? If they do, I'd also go for the Lewisham 1980 and Lyceum shows.

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Mensforthhill wrote: Shea Stadium, huh? I have virtually no interest in that. With Terry on the drums, its going to be boring as all hell and sound like a Clash cover band, not The Clash. Why do they keep doing this? Doesn't Topper have any say? It must be pretty depressing for him to have these live releases with a completely fill-in, inferior drummer coming out (FHTE was dominated by Terry and was an almost worthless release as a result). Does Mick have no clue about how much better they were with Topper? I just don't get it.
I can only hope and pray that they follow this up with Lewisham 1980 and the Lyceum 1978, two smokin' hot performances. Bonds would be much smarter than Shea Stadium as well, its a more well-known "event" in their career anyway. They should just do a live boxset and get it over with, clear the house...... but that would make too much sense, that would never happen with this lot....aaarrgh!
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bazarboy75 wrote:
Mensforthhill wrote: Shea Stadium, huh? I have virtually no interest in that. With Terry on the drums, its going to be boring as all hell and sound like a Clash cover band, not The Clash. Why do they keep doing this? Doesn't Topper have any say? It must be pretty depressing for him to have these live releases with a completely fill-in, inferior drummer coming out (FHTE was dominated by Terry and was an almost worthless release as a result). Does Mick have no clue about how much better they were with Topper? I just don't get it.
I can only hope and pray that they follow this up with Lewisham 1980 and the Lyceum 1978, two smokin' hot performances. Bonds would be much smarter than Shea Stadium as well, its a more well-known "event" in their career anyway. They should just do a live boxset and get it over with, clear the house...... but that would make too much sense, that would never happen with this lot....aaarrgh!
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If you want any other live releases, you'll probably have to buy this one anyways or they aren't going to happen. I'm at least interested in the release as sort of the "lost clash album" since it was gonna be released anyways. It's sort of like filling in a missing piece of the narrative.
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still talking about this ?? shouldn't we be discussing sweaters vs jumpers or the cubs? yes, i've registered my frustration regarding terry releases, but i'll probably buy it in the hope that they release more (better) shows.
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eumaas wrote:still talking about this ?? shouldn't we be discussing sweaters vs jumpers or the cubs? yes, i've registered my frustration regarding terry releases, but i'll probably buy it in the hope that they release more (better) shows.
Stop being rational. Complain more.
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Yea, Undoubtedly I'll buy it anyway, despite all my grumbling- it is The Clash, after all. I'm sure from a technical standpoint, it will sound nice and all, and I've never heard a whole Shea Stadium show. Joe's voice is very strong on the '82 stuff and I'm sure there will be a few decent surprises on it. Still, its Terry...grumble, grumble.....I must complain....

From my standpoint, I think FHTE and now this coming release, give a terrible impression to casual Clash fans with all those Terry tracks. It makes them sound slow and boring and just another average rock band- two things they were NEVER with Topper on board. Sloppy, yes, but never boring. Its a major disservice to their legacy.

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I have no doubt I'll buy it but just as much out of hope there will be more. Not just the Terry grumble my biggest gripe is the tracklist, another greatest hits cd ??

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Flex wrote:
bazarboy75 wrote:
Mensforthhill wrote: Shea Stadium, huh? I have virtually no interest in that. With Terry on the drums, its going to be boring as all hell and sound like a Clash cover band, not The Clash. Why do they keep doing this? Doesn't Topper have any say? It must be pretty depressing for him to have these live releases with a completely fill-in, inferior drummer coming out (FHTE was dominated by Terry and was an almost worthless release as a result). Does Mick have no clue about how much better they were with Topper? I just don't get it.
I can only hope and pray that they follow this up with Lewisham 1980 and the Lyceum 1978, two smokin' hot performances. Bonds would be much smarter than Shea Stadium as well, its a more well-known "event" in their career anyway. They should just do a live boxset and get it over with, clear the house...... but that would make too much sense, that would never happen with this lot....aaarrgh!
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If you want any other live releases, you'll probably have to buy this one anyways or they aren't going to happen. I'm at least interested in the release as sort of the "lost clash album" since it was gonna be released anyways. It's sort of like filling in a missing piece of the narrative.
I'm about as anti-Terry as you can get and yes, this isn't an ideal release, but I'm still buying it the day it comes out. At least it is a rock-focused set.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Yeh but its the same old same old tracks...

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