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Flex wrote:Maybe I'll have a change of heart, but right now I'm swearing this new release off. Fuck it, I'm not gonna pay money for shit like this. Does anyone really believe that if a lot of people actually bought this cd (which they won't) then we'd start seeing real, meaningful archival releases? That will never, ever happen.
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Dirty Harry wrote:Didnt Mick find 'The Vanilla Tapes when he moved house too, Its funny how they find things every few years
And always just in time for a 25 year anniversary release.
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Olaf wrote:
Dirty Harry wrote:Didnt Mick find 'The Vanilla Tapes when he moved house too, Its funny how they find things every few years
And always just in time for a 25 year anniversary release.
Are you saying that god wants us to switch to base-25?
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eumaas wrote:
Flex wrote:Maybe I'll have a change of heart, but right now I'm swearing this new release off. Fuck it, I'm not gonna pay money for shit like this. Does anyone really believe that if a lot of people actually bought this cd (which they won't) then we'd start seeing real, meaningful archival releases? That will never, ever happen.
Yeah, I'm really fucking doubting it now.
Probably. I'm still buying it because it's a good copy of the show that I haven't heard yet.
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Heston wrote:Depressing news from TeddyB on unicorn.com.....

DVD is just the UK release of the Revolution Rock compilation. They apparently could not dig up enough Shea-orientated visual material and, equally unfortunate, are running into lots of financial difficulties in licensing pre-existing material as Bernie made horrible deals. This is why, for instance, the Paris Chorus gig is unrepresented, and the SNL, and the US Festival provids only one song, etc. Ironically, Paul Weller's dad seems to have done a lot better for The Jam back in the day, which is why their DVDs are, if you'll excuse the pun, jam-packed, while the Clash's are scrappy. Sony did pony up back in the day to buy Rude Boy, which is why it is always so well-represented on these Clash releases.
damn... so no DVD with the Shea release? Or if there is I'm guessing it will just be Career Opportunities and SISOSIG. Fucking Bernie. First he gets rid of Mick, then he ruins what would have been a solid album, and in the process he was permanently screwing Clash fans when it comes to future video releases.

I really find it hard to believe the Shea Stadium video is that hard for them to track down. I bet it just costs a few bucks and record company doesn't give a shit. :angry:

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Olaf wrote:
Dirty Harry wrote:Didnt Mick find 'The Vanilla Tapes when he moved house too, Its funny how they find things every few years
And always just in time for a 25 year anniversary release.
Don't forget the Hell W10 movie was 'found' on a car boot sale exactly 20 years after it was made. :rolleyes:

On a side note, why weren't they making some music in 1983 instead of dicking around with this alleged movie?
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Heston wrote:
Olaf wrote:
Dirty Harry wrote:Didnt Mick find 'The Vanilla Tapes when he moved house too, Its funny how they find things every few years
And always just in time for a 25 year anniversary release.
Don't forget the Hell W10 movie was 'found' on a car boot sale exactly 20 years after it was made. :rolleyes:

On a side note, why weren't they making some music in 1983 instead of dicking around with this alleged movie?
Often wondered that myself, and did Mick rework some of the instrumentals used in the Hell W10 movie and were there more left unfinished.

All these questions and more will be answered in 20 odd years time, for the anniversary of the dvd release.
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i'm surprised to hear that sony (so cheap - real phony) didn't have the sense to send mick, paul and topper
back into the studio make a silk purse out of a sows ear (backing trackwise). :meh:

the record company could just use the footage of joe and cut to the crowd, now and again.

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nsc wrote:i'm surprised to hear that sony (so cheap - real phony) didn't have the sense to send mick, paul and topper
back into the studio make a silk purse out of a sows ear (backing trackwise). :meh:
The irony is that just as Joe finally got his singing together live and Mick toned down his guitar excesses, Topper left the band.
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Some info from the official Clash site:
http://www.theclashonline.com/news/the- ... layed-shea

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From the above link:
Recorded at New York’s Shea Stadium in 1982, Live at Shea Stadium captures the band at the peak of its powers and on devastating form. Bristling with energy and attitude, Live at Shea Stadium is destined to feature alongside James Brown at the Apollo, The Who at Leeds and Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison as one of the greatest live recordings of all time!
I don't think one single thing - apart from the bolded segment - in that paragraph is correct. The band is certainly not at the peak of its powers on that recording. If this performance gets considered in the same breath as the rest of the concerts listed, people are even stupider than I thought.

I think they should have played the "lost clash album" angle to the hilt, and not made up bullshit lies about how this was found in a box while moving after 20 years.

Addendum: The bit in the message about how this is "one of the few remaining unreleased clash treasures" basically buries my hope that we'll be seeing any more archival releases.
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Flex wrote:From the above link:
Recorded at New York’s Shea Stadium in 1982, Live at Shea Stadium captures the band at the peak of its powers and on devastating form. Bristling with energy and attitude, Live at Shea Stadium is destined to feature alongside James Brown at the Apollo, The Who at Leeds and Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison as one of the greatest live recordings of all time!
I don't think one single thing - apart from the bolded segment - in that paragraph is correct. The band is certainly not at the peak of its powers on that recording. If this performance gets considered in the same breath as the rest of the concerts listed, people are even stupider than I thought.

I think they should have played the "lost clash album" angle to the hilt, and not made up bullshit lies about how this was found in a box while moving after 20 years.

Addendum: The bit in the message about how this is "one of the few remaining unreleased clash treasures" basically buries my hope that we'll be seeing any more archival releases.
Solid. Sadly.

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Flex wrote:From the above link:
Recorded at New York’s Shea Stadium in 1982, Live at Shea Stadium captures the band at the peak of its powers and on devastating form. Bristling with energy and attitude, Live at Shea Stadium is destined to feature alongside James Brown at the Apollo, The Who at Leeds and Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison as one of the greatest live recordings of all time!
I don't think one single thing - apart from the bolded segment - in that paragraph is correct. The band is certainly not at the peak of its powers on that recording. If this performance gets considered in the same breath as the rest of the concerts listed, people are even stupider than I thought.

I think they should have played the "lost clash album" angle to the hilt, and not made up bullshit lies about how this was found in a box while moving after 20 years.

Addendum: The bit in the message about how this is "one of the few remaining unreleased clash treasures" basically buries my hope that we'll be seeing any more archival releases.
Spot on.

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Sadly, we're all gonna buy it.

Here's Uncut's bit about Shea, RR and the book:

http://www.uncut.co.uk/news/the_clash/news/11948

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BR16ADE_R055E wrote:Some info from the official Clash site:
http://www.theclashonline.com/news/the- ... layed-shea
That's just plain embarrassing.
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