In England...

[Heston]

in the present - would mick jones rather be paul weller or would paul weller rather be mick jones?

mick should still be the best thing since slice bread but he's still the best thing since sliced coke ( i paraphrase mr j green ) your breakfast
is served!.

I'd say they're probably both quite happy with their lot.
Mick's hair is better.

[101Walterton]

The Clash never came close to the commercial success The Jam achieved in the UK. Around 1981 - 1983 The Jam had no peers and were the biggest band in the UK with singles going straight to number 1 on pre orders alone.
Forget the music press, everyone knew The Jam and everyone had a Jam song that they loved. The Clash on the other hand were always lumped together with the Pistols as 'the punk' bands until their mini revival in 1982 with radio friendly Casbah and SISOSIG.

All true, but who commands the most respect these days?

Music Press-wise I'd definitely say the Clash, and the British public seem to be slowly coming around to their retrospective point of view. That's if all these recent "Best Album" polls are anything to go by.

The Clash are probably bigger now than they ever were its alll part of the nostalgia revolution. How many bands from 70's and 80's now release CD's to their old fans who have the money to lap up their long lost past and pay big bucks to watch them from the corporate box of a large stadium.

[nsc]

The Clash never came close to the commercial success The Jam achieved in the UK. Around 1981 - 1983 The Jam had no peers and were the biggest band in the UK with singles going straight to number 1 on pre orders alone.
Forget the music press, everyone knew The Jam and everyone had a Jam song that they loved. The Clash on the other hand were always lumped together with the Pistols as 'the punk' bands until their mini revival in 1982 with radio friendly Casbah and SISOSIG.

All true, but who commands the most respect these days?

Music Press-wise I'd definitely say the Clash, and the British public seem to be slowly coming around to their retrospective point of view. That's if all these recent "Best Album" polls are anything to go by.

The Clash are probably bigger now than they ever were its alll part of the nostalgia revolution. How many bands from 70's and 80's now release CD's to their old fans who have the money to lap up their long lost past and pay big bucks to watch them from the corporate box of a large stadium.

Dear 101er, can you please pm details? i'm going to spend the kids inheritence!

Now that's what I call Punk 48 and a half.

[101Walterton]

The Clash sounded like a band that played whatever they wanted to play. And as RP said saw the bigger
picture of a world wide audience.

The Jam always sounded like a band from England. Thoughout their career the albums they released
had a little punk, then nods to the Who, Beatles and ended sounding like the music Paul Weller loved:
American RnB and Motown. No wonder England loved them.

I think a good comparison could be made between Blur and Oasis. With the exception of something like "Song 2," Blur sounded utterly English to the exclusion of all else—like an updated Jam in their own way—whereas Oasis had a less specific sound culturally, and were better suited for wider appeal. Which makes Oasis like the Clash in this comparison, and for that I apologize.

I would say more like comparing The Kinks to The Beatles.



(and before anyone jumps down my throat I am not comparing The Jam to the The Beatles).

[Marky Dread]

fashionwise no-one designed shit for weller but the clash did wear suits.

Crap total crap Weller wore loads of suits from day one from off the peg gear to tailor mades. I suppose Ben Shermans and Fred Perry's aren't designed. Weller being obsessed with mod had most of his clothes designed.

[Marky Dread]

in the present - would mick jones rather be paul weller or would paul weller rather be mick jones?

mick should still be the best thing since slice bread but he's still the best thing since sliced coke ( i paraphrase mr j green ) your breakfast
is served!.

And young Mr. Weller being such a clean boy, I remember PW speeding his tits off at a Sex Pistols all nighter and then there is PW's story of going back to Joe Strummers gaff for late night spliffs. Remember Weller was very much influenced by The Clash and their political stance and he also said Joe was the best front man he'd ever seen.

[101Walterton]

fashionwise no-one designed shit for weller but the clash did wear suits.

Crap total crap Weller wore loads of suits from day one from off the peg gear to tailor mades. I suppose Ben Shermans and Fred Perry's aren't designed. Weller being obsessed with mod had most of his clothes designed.

In their Burton suits huh they think its funny turning rebellion into money

[Marky Dread]

fashionwise no-one designed shit for weller but the clash did wear suits.

Crap total crap Weller wore loads of suits from day one from off the peg gear to tailor mades. I suppose Ben Shermans and Fred Perry's aren't designed. Weller being obsessed with mod had most of his clothes designed.

In their Burton suits huh they think its funny turning rebellion into money

Exactly!

[nsc]

you can't compare off the peg: burtons, fred perry etc with designers doing this years clash collection. give me a break has anybody seen Clash 2?
even the hair was the same.

co-ordination - first rule for any gang.

[Marky Dread]

you can't compare off the peg: burtons, fred perry etc with designers doing this years clash collection. give me a break has anybody seen Clash 2?
even the hair was the same.

co-ordination - first rule for any gang.

Yep I agree about the Clash II but I can show you a stack of Jam pictures where each member looks like they belong to a different band, The News of The World single with Weller in his carnaby st. mod attire and Rick in a bikers leather jacket just don't work for example.

[KokaKola]

Kid Rock walked by me once. That dude is fucking small.

Seriously, do you have to be 5'4" to be famous?? What IS it with these tiny little people in Hollywood??


...were they just pissed they couldn't ride the big rides when they were little, so they all conspired to take our money via entertainment? Shifty fuckers...

[Marky Dread]

Kid Rock walked by me once. That dude is fucking small.

Seriously, do you have to be 5'4" to be famous?? What IS it with these tiny little people in Hollywood??


...were they just pissed they couldn't ride the big rides when they were little, so they all conspired to take our money via entertainment? Shifty fuckers...

[Wolter]

Kid Rock walked by me once. That dude is fucking small.

Seriously, do you have to be 5'4" to be famous?? What IS it with these tiny little people in Hollywood??


...were they just pissed they couldn't ride the big rides when they were little, so they all conspired to take our money via entertainment? Shifty fuckers...

Almost every famous person I've met is 5'4" with a huge head. Except Robert Wagner. He's like 6'4" with a huge head.

[matedog]

Kid Rock walked by me once. That dude is fucking small.

Seriously, do you have to be 5'4" to be famous?? What IS it with these tiny little people in Hollywood??


...were they just pissed they couldn't ride the big rides when they were little, so they all conspired to take our money via entertainment? Shifty fuckers...

Almost every famous person I've met is 5'4" with a huge head. Except Robert Wagner. He's like 6'4" with a huge head.

Kevin Cronin was not particularly tall.

[Wolter]

Kid Rock walked by me once. That dude is fucking small.

Seriously, do you have to be 5'4" to be famous?? What IS it with these tiny little people in Hollywood??


...were they just pissed they couldn't ride the big rides when they were little, so they all conspired to take our money via entertainment? Shifty fuckers...

Almost every famous person I've met is 5'4" with a huge head. Except Robert Wagner. He's like 6'4" with a huge head.

Kevin Cronin was not particularly tall.

She's not really super famous, but I went to college with Alison Munn, who played Fez's girlfriend for part of a season of That 70s Show. She's probably 5 feet tall in heels and she was almost as tall as him on the show.