I wonder how Terry would have played if the Clash didn't spend every second of that tour realizing they'd become everything they started out saying they opposed? Being bummed out all the time doesn't do much for the old chops, Matey.matedog wrote:Hey guys.
1. Terry whatever. I'd kill to see the Clash w/Terry. That being said, I wouldn't put a Terry show anywhere near my top 10 shows. St. Paul is the go to Terry show and I should give it a relisten. His abilities limit the heights that they could reach musically.
2. I don't refer to sex with the matedizzle as "matedoggin". However, I do refer to my penis as "the matedong."
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Terry does get more criticism then he should because he had the poor luck to have to follow Topper. But even if he was in another band I liked, I still wouldn't consider him a good drummer. I probably wouldn't make fun of him but he would just be one of those drummers you don't even think about.
I'm thinking Terry is a better studio drummer then live. Pretty much all the '82 and even '76 stuff I've heard with him drags. On the album though he has some nice fills and seems pretty good with the bass drum and the fast beats. But he's pretty dull live. There's been good performances with him, but he doesn't really contribute much to why they're good. Makes me wonder what they could have got out of him if the 82 lineup decided to try and record an album or something.
I'm thinking Terry is a better studio drummer then live. Pretty much all the '82 and even '76 stuff I've heard with him drags. On the album though he has some nice fills and seems pretty good with the bass drum and the fast beats. But he's pretty dull live. There's been good performances with him, but he doesn't really contribute much to why they're good. Makes me wonder what they could have got out of him if the 82 lineup decided to try and record an album or something.
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But it amuses me. And I don't think one has to cherry pick from American sitcoms to find less-than-subtle humour.Wolter wrote:Cherry picking out of hundreds of hours of mainstream entertainment is easy. And it misses the point of my statement entirely.Dr. Medulla wrote:Subtle like Jenny Piccolo.Wolter wrote:I never said I had to prove anything to you.Dr. Medulla wrote:As proof that your humour is subtle? Deflect somewhere else, Melvin Belvin.Wolter wrote: And I could post Red Green in response.
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"Penis."Dr. Medulla wrote:But it amuses me. And I don't think one has to cherry pick from American sitcoms to find less-than-subtle humour.
*laugh track*
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Speaking thereof, the "matedong" line did make me laugh. And thank the gods above that I never refer to my unit as "the Gutterpenis."
And yes, that is not at all subtle. But I never said I'm always subtle. Part of the joy of Sincere Irony™ is that, though based on a monistic and materialist worldview, it embraces the mulifaceted nature of subjective reality.
So thbbt.
And yes, that is not at all subtle. But I never said I'm always subtle. Part of the joy of Sincere Irony™ is that, though based on a monistic and materialist worldview, it embraces the mulifaceted nature of subjective reality.
So thbbt.
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Nice words, Professor Donkeyfuck! If you hate your country so much, why don't you move to Assholia or sumthin'! C'mon guys, let's go kick animals!Wolter wrote:And yes, that is not at all subtle. But I never said I'm always subtle. Part of the joy of Sincere Irony™ is that, though based on a monistic and materialist worldview, it embraces the mulifaceted nature of subjective reality.
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That also sounds fun.Dr. Medulla wrote:Nice words, Professor Donkeyfuck! If you hate your country so much, why don't you move to Assholia or sumthin'! C'mon guys, let's go kick animals!Wolter wrote:And yes, that is not at all subtle. But I never said I'm always subtle. Part of the joy of Sincere Irony™ is that, though based on a monistic and materialist worldview, it embraces the mulifaceted nature of subjective reality.
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"I know how to play Armagideon Time properly, but Rock the Casbah is just doing so well." - Terry cerca August, 1982.IkarisOne wrote:I wonder how Terry would have played if the Clash didn't spend every second of that tour realizing they'd become everything they started out saying they opposed? Being bummed out all the time doesn't do much for the old chops, Matey.matedog wrote:Hey guys.
1. Terry whatever. I'd kill to see the Clash w/Terry. That being said, I wouldn't put a Terry show anywhere near my top 10 shows. St. Paul is the go to Terry show and I should give it a relisten. His abilities limit the heights that they could reach musically.
2. I don't refer to sex with the matedizzle as "matedoggin". However, I do refer to my penis as "the matedong."
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Hey, Pete was about 10 times as bummed out about his situation and he still showed up for work every day and gave it his all. Even after the excessive micromanaging kind of backed him into a punk drummer-borg corner and he wasn't being given opportunities to show off some of the tastiness he got to display in '83.matedog wrote:"I know how to play Armagideon Time properly, but Rock the Casbah is just doing so well." - Terry cerca August, 1982.IkarisOne wrote:I wonder how Terry would have played if the Clash didn't spend every second of that tour realizing they'd become everything they started out saying they opposed? Being bummed out all the time doesn't do much for the old chops, Matey.matedog wrote:Hey guys.
1. Terry whatever. I'd kill to see the Clash w/Terry. That being said, I wouldn't put a Terry show anywhere near my top 10 shows. St. Paul is the go to Terry show and I should give it a relisten. His abilities limit the heights that they could reach musically.
2. I don't refer to sex with the matedizzle as "matedoggin". However, I do refer to my penis as "the matedong."
I don't fault Terry for seeing things for what they were, but the guy was fairly dogged throughout his music career about making a name for himself as a sought-after hired gun for big touring bands, but the effort level he was putting up in '82 was not doing himself any favors. I mean, it's not like he'd lost it. He was in Generation X doing a generally solid all-around job just months earlier. I don't think he was suddenly afflicted with the inability to do fills. It was just very mailed-in, pedestrian play even by his not-to-distant prior standards. I don't think it's fair to slag on him...frankly, the other two clods in the rhythm section grate on me much more than Terry during that late-'82 "running-on-flat-tire" sound...but I can't pretend he wasn't taking a few utensils off the table himself. It was still net drag, even if the other three get the bulk of the well-deserved blame.
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One man's drag is another man's "playing it at the right speed".Rat Patrol wrote:Hey, Pete was about 10 times as bummed out about his situation and he still showed up for work every day and gave it his all. Even after the excessive micromanaging kind of backed him into a punk drummer-borg corner and he wasn't being given opportunities to show off some of the tastiness he got to display in '83.matedog wrote:"I know how to play Armagideon Time properly, but Rock the Casbah is just doing so well." - Terry cerca August, 1982.IkarisOne wrote:I wonder how Terry would have played if the Clash didn't spend every second of that tour realizing they'd become everything they started out saying they opposed? Being bummed out all the time doesn't do much for the old chops, Matey.matedog wrote:Hey guys.
1. Terry whatever. I'd kill to see the Clash w/Terry. That being said, I wouldn't put a Terry show anywhere near my top 10 shows. St. Paul is the go to Terry show and I should give it a relisten. His abilities limit the heights that they could reach musically.
2. I don't refer to sex with the matedizzle as "matedoggin". However, I do refer to my penis as "the matedong."
I don't fault Terry for seeing things for what they were, but the guy was fairly dogged throughout his music career about making a name for himself as a sought-after hired gun for big touring bands, but the effort level he was putting up in '82 was not doing himself any favors. I mean, it's not like he'd lost it. He was in Generation X doing a generally solid all-around job just months earlier. I don't think he was suddenly afflicted with the inability to do fills. It was just very mailed-in, pedestrian play even by his not-to-distant prior standards. I don't think it's fair to slag on him...frankly, the other two clods in the rhythm section grate on me much more than Terry during that late-'82 "running-on-flat-tire" sound...but I can't pretend he wasn't taking a few utensils off the table himself. It was still net drag, even if the other three get the bulk of the well-deserved blame.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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I promised myself I wasn't going to do this...but...such...stupidity...can't...resist. . .Heston wrote:One man's drag is another man's "playing it at the right speed".
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Oh my. That's matedogian wrong (albeit on a topic I'm usually pretty right about).Rat Patrol wrote:I promised myself I wasn't going to do this...but...such...stupidity...can't...resist. . .Heston wrote:One man's drag is another man's "playing it at the right speed".
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I relistened to St. Paul and enjoyed it a lot.
Highlights -
*Great Know Your Rights
*Joe playing guitar on Garageland
*Mick throughout playing about as loose as he gets
*Joe fired up ala 1980 or at least 1981 (see WMHP)
*Car Jamming - yeah it's good but I also like the CR version
Lowlights -
*Ghetto Defendent - I realized Terry is incapable of playing a beat that doesn't have bass drum on the downbeat (1 and 3). Otherwise it's pretty fantastic and would be up there with Tops
*Terry also has no concept of ghost notes and accents. See "Charlie Don't Surf"
*the usual terry complaints
*no 77 Clash save for a great and rare Pressure Drop and a snippet of Janie Jones. Perhaps they played more.
*I could always do without a live Call Up
I would put this in the low teens if not low top ten shows.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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How about some sweet Pete action for the Dogboy? What do you think of those crazy syncopations? (you might have to wait for the vid to load)
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Love that Pete. I really should check out more Queen Adreena. I've liked what I see.
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The live stuff is a little on the raw side. They're much more polished on record.Wolter wrote:Love that Pete. I really should check out more Queen Adreena. I've liked what I see.