If Music Could Talk

Heston wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2018, 6:33am

MarkyJacobs wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2018, 4:42am

Remind me. I know BAD played this live, but was it intended to be an Upping St track or was it made for a film soundtrack? Sid and Nancy?

It was intended for the movie "Candy Mountain." Not sure if it was ever in contention for Upping St.

i really enjoyed candy mountain. pretty similar in tempo and storyline to jim jarmusch's movies.
strummer plays a nice short part.

Heston wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2018, 6:36am

TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2018, 8:15pm

This is the original 1987 mix, the way Mick and Joe wanted it at the time. It's only been remastered for 001. Try listening to Marky's edit, I think Joe can be heard a bit more.

Yeah, you can definitely hear Joe a bit more on the Marky edit. It's weird I thought Joe wasn't on it at first but now I can't unhear him. 101 got it right when he said you can hear Joe more at the end of each line. He hangs on a split second longer than Mick.

He's singing really successfully with Mick's register, moreso than he did with the Clash.

TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2018, 1:02am

Give it a try. It's possible Marky's edit may be derived from a non-brickwalled source.

I tried more than once. Still no Joe joy.

BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2018, 10:57pm

TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2018, 1:02am

Give it a try. It's possible Marky's edit may be derived from a non-brickwalled source.

I tried more than once. Still no Joe joy.

Try on the 10:30 minute version at exactly 2:39, you can very distinctly hear Joe on the second "tell me whyyyyy." Joe holds the note a good bit longer.

matedog wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2018, 10:39am

BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2018, 10:57pm

TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2018, 1:02am

Give it a try. It's possible Marky's edit may be derived from a non-brickwalled source.

I tried more than once. Still no Joe joy.

Try on the 10:30 minute version at exactly 2:39, you can very distinctly hear Joe on the second "tell me whyyyyy." Joe holds the note a good bit longer.

and on the next line 'Does he have a car'

"all motocycle cop wants to die"

Influenced by this?

Marky Dread wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2018, 3:53pm

"all motocycle cop wants to die"

Influenced by this?

Wasn't that guitar that Mick favoured in BAD also called an electraglide?

oliver wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2018, 7:41pm

Marky Dread wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2018, 3:53pm

"all motocycle cop wants to die"

Influenced by this?

Wasn't that guitar that Mick favoured in BAD also called an electraglide?

Yes a Bond Electraglide (The Daleks Handbag).

matedog wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2018, 10:39am

BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2018, 10:57pm

TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2018, 1:02am

Give it a try. It's possible Marky's edit may be derived from a non-brickwalled source.

I tried more than once. Still no Joe joy.

Try on the 10:30 minute version at exactly 2:39, you can very distinctly hear Joe on the second "tell me whyyyyy." Joe holds the note a good bit longer.

OK, I just barely hear Joe. Finally. Thanks.

The Daleks handbag was the Roland guitar synth ! the same as TJ in Sputnik.

Matheries wrote: ↑

09 Oct 2018, 5:17am

The Daleks handbag was the Roland guitar synth ! the same as TJ in Sputnik.

Yes, as exhibited at Mick's Rock 'n' Roll Library.

I think US North must have been intended for release as a Big Audio Dynamite song. The band wouldn't have 'road-tested' it otherwise, would they?

The lyrics are obviously Strummer though. I think you could have shown me the words written down, and without being given any clues, I would have been able to identify them as Joe's work.

Matheries wrote: ↑

09 Oct 2018, 5:17am

The Daleks handbag was the Roland guitar synth ! the same as TJ in Sputnik.

Yes yes of course it is. Thanks mate.

I have a thing for that old 80's kit - when Mick took the library to Norwich art school, he also had the bond guitar and the Linn drum machine.

One thing I always thought about after visiting, that there were some tapes with various notes on them, just wish I had taken the old Walkman - might of been a few gems there!

Fantastic to see this song finally released as a studio version :) Loving this song so much and very happy with a 10 minute version. Thank you to all that was involved in the edited versions they were great too.

I definitely cant hear Joe Strummer singing on this at all, and what sound engineer would have mixed this so that he cant be heard at all ?. Personally i doubt very much Joe is recorded on this.I hear Mick's voice sounding twice on it - is it called double tracked ?

Personally i think this has Joe's name attached to it just to get a release from the record company. This is probably the only way Bad fans were ever going to get to hear this song by having it presented as a joint song between the two of them.

Whats next ? Bad doing the cover studio version of Poontang now. If there is a version i would love to hear that, lets get another campaign going