Please speak up, Mick...

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Heston wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 7:58pm
Marky Dread wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 2:10pm
That's got to be satirical surely. Higher calcium consumption well not in the 70s when Thatcher took away free school milk.
That's my impression too, the other scenario about McDonalds seems satitical too. Out of context it is hard to tell.

But I've yet to see this letter to Johnson and what it entails. And even If it exists. Until then it's all conjecture.
Who knows what friendships occur in the world of showbiz(for surely that's Boris' world). Unlikely bedfellows and all that

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BitterTom wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 5:56pm
MarkyJacobs wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 2:34pm
I saw somewhere, someone say that Boris Johnson can actually be seen in the crowd at the FBU Benefit/ Srummer and Jones re-union gig in 2002. I had assumed it was a wind-up. Now I daren't investigate further. I'm afraid of what I might find.
If he was there, he was there. Hardly scary stuff.
It would discredit somewhat the argument I, and others elsewhere, have been trying to make?

That's what I meant.

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MarkyJacobs wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 3:09am
BitterTom wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 5:56pm
MarkyJacobs wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 2:34pm
I saw somewhere, someone say that Boris Johnson can actually be seen in the crowd at the FBU Benefit/ Srummer and Jones re-union gig in 2002. I had assumed it was a wind-up. Now I daren't investigate further. I'm afraid of what I might find.
If he was there, he was there. Hardly scary stuff.
It would discredit somewhat the argument I, and others elsewhere, have been trying to make?

That's what I meant.
Or it would say at least for one night Boris had good taste.
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Heston wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 7:58pm
Marky Dread wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 2:10pm
That's got to be satirical surely. Higher calcium consumption well not in the 70s when Thatcher took away free school milk.
That's my impression too, the other scenario about McDonalds seems satitical too. Out of context it is hard to tell.

But I've yet to see this letter to Johnson and what it entails. And even If it exists. Until then it's all conjecture.
Chris Salewicz spoke about it on Great Lives on bbc radio 4 - it’s available on iPlayer if you want to have a listen (I plan to later). I doubt Chris would make it up.

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Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 7:32am
MarkyJacobs wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 3:09am
BitterTom wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 5:56pm
MarkyJacobs wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 2:34pm
I saw somewhere, someone say that Boris Johnson can actually be seen in the crowd at the FBU Benefit/ Srummer and Jones re-union gig in 2002. I had assumed it was a wind-up. Now I daren't investigate further. I'm afraid of what I might find.


If he was there, he was there. Hardly scary stuff.
It would discredit somewhat the argument I, and others elsewhere, have been trying to make?

That's what I meant.
Or it would say at least for one night Boris had good taste.
Personally, I think people ought to have found something better than 'White Riot' and 'London's Burning' to listen to by 2002, let alone 2019. Especially if the lyrics to such songs are completely at odds with their personal values and beliefs?

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MarkyJacobs wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 9:12am
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 7:32am
MarkyJacobs wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 3:09am
BitterTom wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 5:56pm
MarkyJacobs wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 2:34pm
I saw somewhere, someone say that Boris Johnson can actually be seen in the crowd at the FBU Benefit/ Srummer and Jones re-union gig in 2002. I had assumed it was a wind-up. Now I daren't investigate further. I'm afraid of what I might find.


If he was there, he was there. Hardly scary stuff.
It would discredit somewhat the argument I, and others elsewhere, have been trying to make?

That's what I meant.
Or it would say at least for one night Boris had good taste.
Personally, I think people ought to have found something better than 'White Riot' and 'London's Burning' to listen to by 2002, let alone 2019. Especially if the lyrics to such songs are completely at odds with their personal values and beliefs?
What a complete and utter crock of shit. People can listen to what the fuck they like. They can vote how they like. They can think what they want.

Hey you can't listen to punk rock if you wanna vote Tory!
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Go tell Robin Banks.

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This reminds me somewhat of when Paul Ryan claimed that Rage Against the Machine were his favorite band. When pushed on it, he said he liked their sound, but not their lyrics.
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MarkyJacobs wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 12:58pm
Go tell Robin Banks.
You go tell him. You're the one who's bothered. Anyway I'm addressing you so stop hiding behind Robin.
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WestwayKid wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 1:44pm
This reminds me somewhat of when Paul Ryan claimed that Rage Against the Machine were his favorite band. When pushed on it, he said he liked their sound, but not their lyrics.
Right I expect there are loads of people out there with dodgy political views that enjoy rock n roll band's who have completely opposing views and lyrics. I see it like this if you are a band who makes a stance then you'll win people over with your ideals and music or you won't.
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WestwayKid wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 1:44pm
This reminds me somewhat of when Paul Ryan claimed that Rage Against the Machine were his favorite band. When pushed on it, he said he liked their sound, but not their lyrics.
It's an amusing solipsism in ardent fandom that assumes a type of proprietary relationship with a band. Only people who think like me could like that band! The band must also think like me! You can't like the band—you have no right because you don't think properly! You don't love them properly! You don't get it. None of us are fully immune to this kind of blinkered thinking—I was always mystified by what Satch found appealing in the Clash; whatever the band's muddied values, heartless free market libertarianism married to to equally heartless evangelicalism didn't seem it—but pretty much everyone in this community has left behind that kind of silly possessive fandom.
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Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 1:47pm
MarkyJacobs wrote:
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Go tell Robin Banks.
You go tell him. You're the one who's bothered.
Why would I want to tell him something I don't believe?

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Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 1:47pm
MarkyJacobs wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 12:58pm
Go tell Robin Banks.
You go tell him. You're the one who's bothered.
I'd use the word touched, but to each his own word choice. ;)
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MarkyJacobs wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 1:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 1:47pm
MarkyJacobs wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 12:58pm
Go tell Robin Banks.
You go tell him. You're the one who's bothered.
Why would I want to tell him something I don't believe?
Robin is entitled to his views as is everybody else.
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i listen to enough country music and streetpunk that i have faves that don't exactly share my worldview (to put it mildly). it doesn't annoy me that paul ryan or boris johnson likes the music i like because i think it reflects on me or the music, but i do admit that it annoys me that good things make those people happy. they should be constantly sad and miserable and disconnected from anything that could bring them pleasure in life. boris should be keeping his promise to go die in a ditch rather than spin a clash record, imho
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