F-Punk Remixed

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Thanks Marky! Oops! Double post.
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Heston wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 3:45pm
Kory wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 3:35pm
See, the problem with this is that I have to listen to F-Punk twice. It's been so long that I won't have any comparison any more.
This was my problem. I have no doubt Marky will have done a good job so I wasn't prepared the give the old version a spin first.

I'm nearly through playing it now and sorry, I just don't like this album. The guitar tones are horrible, and Mick just sounds like he's got a bad cold. I don't know if using shit microphones was a deliberate production decision but it doesn't work. Couple of good tunes but Jesus, what happened?
Not much you can do about those complaints. I don't care for the that guitar sound either. And the vocals just feel like they are recorded live without any pop shield etc. I do like a few of the songs though. GonnaTry/Singapore/Psycho Wing/Got to Set Her Free could've been contenders with a different approach.
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Marky Dread wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 5:30pm
Heston wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 3:45pm
Kory wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 3:35pm
See, the problem with this is that I have to listen to F-Punk twice. It's been so long that I won't have any comparison any more.
This was my problem. I have no doubt Marky will have done a good job so I wasn't prepared the give the old version a spin first.

I'm nearly through playing it now and sorry, I just don't like this album. The guitar tones are horrible, and Mick just sounds like he's got a bad cold. I don't know if using shit microphones was a deliberate production decision but it doesn't work. Couple of good tunes but Jesus, what happened?
Not much you can do about those complaints. I don't care for the that guitar sound either. And the vocals just feel like they are recorded live without any pop shield etc. I do like a few of the songs though. GonnaTry/Singapore/Psycho Wing/Got to Set Her Free could've been contenders with a different approach.
Totally mate, not a grumble about your mix because those were the sounds as recorded, impossible to alter them even if you had the multitracks.

Yeah, the songs you mention all had the right ingredients.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Cheers, Marky! Looking forward to giving this a spin.
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Agreed that those are the four best songs. They did basically record much of the album live, with live drums. As for Mick’s vocals, I think the issue is the keys the songs are done in. Mick sang in his lower register for a lot of the album and didn’t double track a higher pitched voice like he had often done historically (i.e. E = MC2). This was a deliberate decision, as I remember asking him about it when I heard the roughs.

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Agreed that those are the four best songs. They did basically record much of the album live, with live drums. As for Mick’s vocals, I think the issue is the keys the songs are done in. Mick sang in his lower register for a lot of the album and didn’t double track a higher pitched voice like he had often done historically (i.e. E = MC2). This was a deliberate decision, as I remember asking him about it when I heard the roughs.
It all feels like a demo. I like those songs mentioned and the album is choc full of ideas that I like even if they don't work that well. It feels like a big production done on a budget. Micks guitar tone is flat and there are some nice things that are too buried in the mix.
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Heston wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 5:44pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 5:30pm
Heston wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 3:45pm
Kory wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 3:35pm
See, the problem with this is that I have to listen to F-Punk twice. It's been so long that I won't have any comparison any more.
This was my problem. I have no doubt Marky will have done a good job so I wasn't prepared the give the old version a spin first.

I'm nearly through playing it now and sorry, I just don't like this album. The guitar tones are horrible, and Mick just sounds like he's got a bad cold. I don't know if using shit microphones was a deliberate production decision but it doesn't work. Couple of good tunes but Jesus, what happened?
Not much you can do about those complaints. I don't care for the that guitar sound either. And the vocals just feel like they are recorded live without any pop shield etc. I do like a few of the songs though. GonnaTry/Singapore/Psycho Wing/Got to Set Her Free could've been contenders with a different approach.
Totally mate, not a grumble about your mix because those were the sounds as recorded, impossible to alter them even if you had the multitracks.

Yeah, the songs you mention all had the right ingredients.
Thinking about this a little more you could change the sound of the guitar with the multi tracks. It would be a real trial and error process and who knows if it would work. Same could done via pitch with the vocal. You could double up the vocal track and pitch one in a higher range then mix the lower range slightly lower in the mix.
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I do agree with what everyone says and the criticisms but i really love this album and i totally get it. The fact its live just makes it even more the better for me

Its just a shame entering a new ride didn't get an official release now that's something i would like to see. Its chaotic, explosive and exciting just like dynamite should be

Is it me or does all that Mick touches fizzle out in a unannounced way when it starts to reach its pinnacle or at its best

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16 Jun 2020, 7:51am
I do agree with what everyone says and the criticisms but i really love this album and i totally get it. The fact its live just makes it even more the better for me

Its just a shame entering a new ride didn't get an official release now that's something i would like to see. Its chaotic, explosive and exciting just like dynamite should be

Is it me or does all that Mick touches fizzle out in a unannounced way when it starts to reach its pinnacle or at its best
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14 Jun 2020, 10:37am
Here's F-Punk Remixed. I think it sounds much better. Some decent tunes on here burried on a terrible mix.

https://mega.nz/file/nk0x1CLD#p3_GrB6Kn ... F7sFqROJjA
I can't wait to dive into this as I kind of love this album for some reason. I love the bonus tracks but you forgot the amazing b-side Saturday Night Inside?

I appreciate your fine work!

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I might be in the minority here but I have always liked this album, Higher Power too. Looking forward to seeing what Marky's magic can do cause I think it's already a good album.

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Looks like it's just me who's not a fan!
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Equaliser wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 11:08am
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Jun 2020, 10:37am
Here's F-Punk Remixed. I think it sounds much better. Some decent tunes on here burried on a terrible mix.

https://mega.nz/file/nk0x1CLD#p3_GrB6Kn ... F7sFqROJjA
I can't wait to dive into this as I kind of love this album for some reason. I love the bonus tracks but you forgot the amazing b-side Saturday Night Inside?

I appreciate your fine work!
Cheers!

I didn't miss "Saturday Night Inside" as such as this wasn't a deluxe job to include everything as there are more mixes etc. The idea was just to improve the sound on the album. I just added the other tracks from the cd single of "I Turned Out A Punk".

I agree though "Saturday Night Inside" is a stomper. Should've been on the album.
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Marky Dread wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 11:27am
Equaliser wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 11:08am
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Jun 2020, 10:37am
Here's F-Punk Remixed. I think it sounds much better. Some decent tunes on here burried on a terrible mix.

https://mega.nz/file/nk0x1CLD#p3_GrB6Kn ... F7sFqROJjA
I can't wait to dive into this as I kind of love this album for some reason. I love the bonus tracks but you forgot the amazing b-side Saturday Night Inside?

I appreciate your fine work!
Cheers!

I didn't miss "Saturday Night Inside" as such as this wasn't a deluxe job to include everything as there are more mixes etc. The idea was just to improve the sound on the album. I just added the other tracks from the cd single of "I Turned Out A Punk".

I agree though "Saturday Night Inside" is a stomper. Should've been on the album.
Thanks Marky, sorry to get the Nitcomb out on you.

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Equaliser wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 11:49am
Marky Dread wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 11:27am
Equaliser wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 11:08am
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Jun 2020, 10:37am
Here's F-Punk Remixed. I think it sounds much better. Some decent tunes on here burried on a terrible mix.

https://mega.nz/file/nk0x1CLD#p3_GrB6Kn ... F7sFqROJjA
I can't wait to dive into this as I kind of love this album for some reason. I love the bonus tracks but you forgot the amazing b-side Saturday Night Inside?

I appreciate your fine work!
Cheers!

I didn't miss "Saturday Night Inside" as such as this wasn't a deluxe job to include everything as there are more mixes etc. The idea was just to improve the sound on the album. I just added the other tracks from the cd single of "I Turned Out A Punk".

I agree though "Saturday Night Inside" is a stomper. Should've been on the album.
Thanks Marky, sorry to get the Nitcomb out on you.
:mrgreen: ;)
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