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Re: Don's book

Posted: 26 Mar 2021, 3:38am
by TeddyB Not Logged In
Don’s book brings up again Joe’s, um, questionable ways with women, as often seen in Chris Salewicz’s biography. This time it’s a story about how Joe “stole” Jeannette Lee from Don, which led to Don staying away from the Clash for some time starting in 1977. It’s interesting because Don scrupulously avoids too much negative commentary about anyone in his book, save for his own foibles. I wonder if this had a (further) effect on Don’s roommate Lydon’s negative vibes toward Joe. Of course Jeannette later “joined” PiL, and later yet put Mick together with The Libertines when she was an exec at Rough Trade. A very small town, that Notting Hill.

Re: Don's book

Posted: 26 Mar 2021, 6:13am
by white man
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 3:38am
Don’s book brings up again Joe’s, um, questionable ways with women, as often seen in Chris Salewicz’s biography. This time it’s a story about how Joe “stole” Jeannette Lee from Don, which led to Don staying away from the Clash for some time starting in 1977. It’s interesting because Don scrupulously avoids too much negative commentary about anyone in his book, save for his own foibles. I wonder if this had a (further) effect on Don’s roommate Lydon’s negative vibes toward Joe. Of course Jeannette later “joined” PiL, and later yet put Mick together with The Libertines when she was an exec at Rough Trade. A very small town, that Notting Hill.
In Billy Idol's book he mentions that him and Don fell out because Billy "stole" Jeannette as well.
Me Dad had a car that was stolen twice. I never worked out whether it was because it was an attractive car to have or my Dad was just careless.

Re: Don's book

Posted: 26 Mar 2021, 6:25am
by Marky Dread
white man wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 6:13am
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 3:38am
Don’s book brings up again Joe’s, um, questionable ways with women, as often seen in Chris Salewicz’s biography. This time it’s a story about how Joe “stole” Jeannette Lee from Don, which led to Don staying away from the Clash for some time starting in 1977. It’s interesting because Don scrupulously avoids too much negative commentary about anyone in his book, save for his own foibles. I wonder if this had a (further) effect on Don’s roommate Lydon’s negative vibes toward Joe. Of course Jeannette later “joined” PiL, and later yet put Mick together with The Libertines when she was an exec at Rough Trade. A very small town, that Notting Hill.
In Billy Idol's book he mentions that him and Don fell out because Billy "stole" Jeannette as well.
Me Dad had a car that was stolen twice. I never worked out whether it was because it was an attractive car to have or my Dad was just careless.
Haha very true mate. Never make a pretty girl your girlfriend as all your mates will fancy her.

Let's not forget this quote from Joe to Tony Parsons.

"I wouldn't steal money off a friend, but I'd steal his girlfriend".

Re: Don's book

Posted: 31 Mar 2021, 4:51pm
by Kory
I'm about 60% through the book and really liking it so far. However, Don mentions his dad playing soca records when he (Don) was around 4 or 5, but to the best of my knowledge, soca wasn't created until the early 70s. Is there some kind of bridge genre, or was it just a misremembering perhaps?

Re: Don's book

Posted: 31 Mar 2021, 4:55pm
by Kory
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 3:38am
Don’s book brings up again Joe’s, um, questionable ways with women, as often seen in Chris Salewicz’s biography. This time it’s a story about how Joe “stole” Jeannette Lee from Don, which led to Don staying away from the Clash for some time starting in 1977. It’s interesting because Don scrupulously avoids too much negative commentary about anyone in his book, save for his own foibles. I wonder if this had a (further) effect on Don’s roommate Lydon’s negative vibes toward Joe. Of course Jeannette later “joined” PiL, and later yet put Mick together with The Libertines when she was an exec at Rough Trade. A very small town, that Notting Hill.
I get the sense that Lydon wouldn't be shy about calling that out explicitly if it was a factor. I suspect his distaste for Joe (semi-recent comment about missing him notwithstanding) probably simply just boils down to a combo of jealousy and not liking Joe's cosplaying as working class.

Re: Don's book

Posted: 31 Mar 2021, 5:03pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 4:55pm
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 3:38am
Don’s book brings up again Joe’s, um, questionable ways with women, as often seen in Chris Salewicz’s biography. This time it’s a story about how Joe “stole” Jeannette Lee from Don, which led to Don staying away from the Clash for some time starting in 1977. It’s interesting because Don scrupulously avoids too much negative commentary about anyone in his book, save for his own foibles. I wonder if this had a (further) effect on Don’s roommate Lydon’s negative vibes toward Joe. Of course Jeannette later “joined” PiL, and later yet put Mick together with The Libertines when she was an exec at Rough Trade. A very small town, that Notting Hill.
I get the sense that Lydon wouldn't be shy about calling that out explicitly if it was a factor. I suspect his distaste for Joe (semi-recent comment about missing him notwithstanding) probably simply just boils down to a combo of jealousy and not liking Joe's cosplaying as working class.
If so, the latter is rationalization for the former.

Re: Don's book

Posted: 31 Mar 2021, 5:09pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 5:03pm
Kory wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 4:55pm
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 3:38am
Don’s book brings up again Joe’s, um, questionable ways with women, as often seen in Chris Salewicz’s biography. This time it’s a story about how Joe “stole” Jeannette Lee from Don, which led to Don staying away from the Clash for some time starting in 1977. It’s interesting because Don scrupulously avoids too much negative commentary about anyone in his book, save for his own foibles. I wonder if this had a (further) effect on Don’s roommate Lydon’s negative vibes toward Joe. Of course Jeannette later “joined” PiL, and later yet put Mick together with The Libertines when she was an exec at Rough Trade. A very small town, that Notting Hill.
I get the sense that Lydon wouldn't be shy about calling that out explicitly if it was a factor. I suspect his distaste for Joe (semi-recent comment about missing him notwithstanding) probably simply just boils down to a combo of jealousy and not liking Joe's cosplaying as working class.
If so, the latter is rationalization for the former.
True. It's just so obvious that as iconoclastic as people think John is, he clings to his title/reputation as the king of punk like a life raft. It's doubly annoying how much it thinks it gives him authority over what is or isn't punk.

Re: Don's book

Posted: 31 Mar 2021, 5:11pm
by Flex
Kory wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 5:09pm
It's doubly annoying how much it thinks it gives him authority over what is or isn't punk.
yeah, we all know that authority resides solely with me.

Re: Don's book

Posted: 31 Mar 2021, 5:16pm
by Dr. Medulla
Flex wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 5:11pm
Kory wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 5:09pm
It's doubly annoying how much it thinks it gives him authority over what is or isn't punk.
yeah, we all know that authority resides solely with me.
I'm very comfortable blaming you for the punk that sucks.

Re: Don's book

Posted: 31 Mar 2021, 5:17pm
by Kory
Flex wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 5:11pm
Kory wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 5:09pm
It's doubly annoying how much it thinks it gives him authority over what is or isn't punk.
yeah, we all know that authority resides solely with me.
I defer to you on all matters except Irish punk fusion.

Re: Don's book

Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 2:37pm
by Silent Majority
Kindle version for £12? Unjustifiable.

Re: Don's book

Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 2:41pm
by Dr. Medulla
Silent Majority wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 2:37pm
Kindle version for £12? Unjustifiable.
edit: Better source: https://book4you.org/dl/12344772/5969b6

Re: Don's book

Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 7:27pm
by Silent Majority
Dr. Medulla wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 2:41pm
Silent Majority wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 2:37pm
Kindle version for £12? Unjustifiable.
edit: Better source: https://book4you.org/dl/12344772/5969b6
Thank you!

Re: Don's book

Posted: 07 Jun 2021, 9:23am
by Sparky
Dr. Medulla wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 2:41pm
Silent Majority wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 2:37pm
Kindle version for £12? Unjustifiable.
edit: Better source: https://book4you.org/dl/12344772/5969b6
Thanks Doc!

Re: Don's book

Posted: 10 Jun 2021, 3:50pm
by MarkyJacobs
The book suggests Everybody Needs a Holiday was an ode to Mick's recently departed grandmother.