B.A.D. Observations Thread

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Silent Majority wrote:'Charming' is exactly how I'd describe Mick's vocals. Mick's singing just sounds like a place to live, a friendly instrument capable of expressing an amiability that borders on the profound.
I can fully understand why people mightn't like his voice, but personally, I fucking love it. Saying that, it went very ragged at the time of Higher Power and F-Punk, I don't know if drugs/lifestyle were an issue. It does spoil my enjoyment of those albums, though.
His vocal cords were damaged during his severe chicken pox bout in '88 when he was in a coma. The breathing tubes they had to shove down his throat tore up his cords pretty good. He had to re-train his singing voice for Megatop Phoenix, lost an octave of range and a lot of power, he cracks a little when he does belt it (evident on Rush), and his diction's been a little less clear. Kind of gone with the smooth/quieter singing style since to compensate for the more limited range. Certainly post-'88 he was never going to be able to do a vintage live Somebody Got Murdered if he ever wanted to give it a try. Age started taking its toll a little further near the end, and I don't think that ghastly dentistry of his was really helping to counteract. Definitely got a bit mumbly after age 40 and especially with C/Si.

But you can tell he's done some heavy voice training to work up his stamina for the reunion, because his voice sounds the best it's been since The Globe. Really wasn't expecting that, as I thought we'd have to live with a certain amount of inaudibility on the tour based on what was evident in the C/Si performances. But he surprised there and sounds great. Makes me wish he'd been a little more on the ball about maintaining good vocal stamina the previous 15 years, but whatever...wonderful to hear him in good form again.

Still think he could take it to another level if he got some long overdue heavy dental reconstruction on those wrong-angle lime-color chompers of his. The improvement in diction at his age would be more dramatic than the massive improvement Joe's voice underwent after his 1981 corrective surgery got rid of most of the spittle.
I was well aware of the issues with his illness affecting his vocals, what seemed strange was the sudden decline after Megatop, then a bit of a resurgence for Entering A New Ride. You could tell on Megatop he didn't have the old power, but he sounds awful in comparison on Higher Power and F-Punk.
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The guy smoke(d ??) too much

I really liked what you said RP ans about the octave lost, that's one reason i don't want to see him sings some old Clash tunes... Forget it once for all.

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The "final" version of Entering a New Ride is the only album Mick has recorded in a professional studio since parts of the Globe. The last album fully recorded in such conditions was Megatop (with Bill Price). That hasn't helped the sound of his recorded vocals. Bill mixed last Post, but it was mainly recorded at the Bunker.

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Megatop and Entering are my one-two BAD albums. :cool:

I think Heston did a breakdown of MP earlier with Union, Jack getting a 4/10 or something — it's one of my favourite Mick songs. Great lyrics and generally superb execution of the Sound of the BAD.

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Heston wrote:
bazarboy75 wrote:Mick Jones shouldn't wear jeans during a concert
I'm with you buddy.

Maybe his usual trousers got covered in mud!
Mick should wear dungarees to protect his jeans from getting splattered with mud.
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An observation: Mick once wrote to the Daily Mirror problem page in '86.....
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I've been sorting my loft out and came across a few funny cuttings I hadn't seen for years.
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Heston wrote:An observation: Mick once wrote to the Daily Mirror problem page in '86.....
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I've been sorting my loft out and came across a few funny cuttings I hadn't seen for years.
That's was entertaining

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Heston wrote:An observation: Mick once wrote to the Daily Mirror problem page in '86.....
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I've been sorting my loft out and came across a few funny cuttings I hadn't seen for years.
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Heston wrote:An observation: Mick once wrote to the Daily Mirror problem page in '86.....
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I've been sorting my loft out and came across a few funny cuttings I hadn't seen for years.
That's it dump all your old rubbish from your loft on this forum, and who do you suppose will clean it up now?
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Marky Dread wrote:
Heston wrote:An observation: Mick once wrote to the Daily Mirror problem page in '86.....
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I've been sorting my loft out and came across a few funny cuttings I hadn't seen for years.
That's it dump all your old rubbish from your loft on this forum, and who do you suppose will clean it up now?
Heston might make a sandwich from it.
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Heston wrote:An observation: Mick once wrote to the Daily Mirror problem page in '86.....
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I've been sorting my loft out and came across a few funny cuttings I hadn't seen for years.
Seeing this again made me giggle. I'm glad I bumped this thread.

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US North would be a brilliant candidate for the next BAD album.

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Appleseed, I agree with you.
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It would be awesome to hear a newly recorded US North, but it will probably be added to No. 10 Upping Street as a bonus song.

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