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Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 4:09pm
by MarkyJacobs
Mick also has extensive writing credits on Megatop Phoenix.
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 4:26pm
by Heston
MarkyJacobs wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 4:03pm
I know Mick had a lengthy rehabilitation, but I never heard evidence of weakened vocal capability live or on record.
You're kidding, right?
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 4:28pm
by Heston
Marky Dread wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 10:11am
BitterTom wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 9:38am
Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 9:26am
BitterTom wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 8:37am
Heston wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 8:19am
My fave on the album.
Yeah I agree.
Felt the album was confused and confusing to listen to. Some hints of great work but nothing on the other 2 I've listened to. Like I said before, a lot of long winded stuff and (this just might be me not getting 'it') it felt weird purely for the sake of being weird.
Well that makes sense.
Rave culture/acid house makes more sense not just the drug. If you listen to this album with an open mind and an attitude for the time and era it was made then without the prejudice of rock 'n' roll trappings it's a masterpiece. Right up there with De La Soul ''3 Feet High and Rising''.
Yeah, it was totally in the spirit of the times in the UK. I know people who had no interest in the Clash or prior BAD who absolutely loved it.
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 4:33pm
by Marky Dread
Heston wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 4:28pm
Marky Dread wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 10:11am
BitterTom wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 9:38am
Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 9:26am
BitterTom wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 8:37am
Yeah I agree.
Felt the album was confused and confusing to listen to. Some hints of great work but nothing on the other 2 I've listened to. Like I said before, a lot of long winded stuff and (this just might be me not getting 'it') it felt weird purely for the sake of being weird.
Well that makes sense.
Rave culture/acid house makes more sense not just the drug. If you listen to this album with an open mind and an attitude for the time and era it was made then without the prejudice of rock 'n' roll trappings it's a masterpiece. Right up there with De La Soul ''3 Feet High and Rising''.
Yeah, it was totally in the spirit of the times in the UK. I know people who had no interest in the Clash or prior BAD who absolutely loved it.
On first hearing I was a little surprised how different to their previous 3 albums it was. But the more I played it the more I adored it. It was very much like the same thing that happened with Sandinista!
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 4:59pm
by MarkyJacobs
Heston wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 4:26pm
MarkyJacobs wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 4:03pm
I know Mick had a lengthy rehabilitation, but I never heard evidence of weakened vocal capability live or on record.
You're kidding, right?
No. Maybe my ears are finely tuned enough? Maybe I never heard enough of him live earlier in his career?
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 5:03pm
by Silent Majority
I would compare Jail Guitar Doors to Singapore by BAD.
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 5:07pm
by Heston
MarkyJacobs wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 4:59pm
Heston wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 4:26pm
MarkyJacobs wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 4:03pm
I know Mick had a lengthy rehabilitation, but I never heard evidence of weakened vocal capability live or on record.
You're kidding, right?
No. Maybe my ears are finely tuned enough? Maybe I never heard enough of him live earlier in his career?
He lost about four notes from his range. He never again attempted things like the high notes in V13, always dropping down an octave. It's on Higher Power and F-Punk where you really start to hear the difference for me, especially the latter. He does well in comparison on Megatop but keeps the songs in a nice low singing range.
Faux edit: What Maj said.
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 5:09pm
by Silent Majority
My mate Kit likes to compare the tasteful way Roger Daltrey has handled his aging voice with the vain way Axl Rose still tries to wail like Reagan was still in office. Everybody has to relearn how to sing every few years. Our voices are never static.
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 5:18pm
by Marky Dread
Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 5:09pm
My mate Kit likes to compare the tasteful way Roger Daltrey has handled his aging voice with the vain way Axl Rose still tries to wail like Reagan was still in office. Everybody has to relearn how to sing every few years. Our voices are never static.
Agreed. But enough with all the president shit already.
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 5:31pm
by Silent Majority
Marky Dread wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 5:18pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 5:09pm
My mate Kit likes to compare the tasteful way Roger Daltrey has handled his aging voice with the vain way Axl Rose still tries to wail like Reagan was still in office. Everybody has to relearn how to sing every few years. Our voices are never static.
Agreed. But enough with all the president shit already.
That's fair.
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 5:34pm
by Wolter
I really wanted to like Megatop, but it’s just not my cup of tea.
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 5:48pm
by MarkyJacobs
I didn't like that later stuff much, but I didn't identify Mick"s voice as being a reason. I didn't see BAD live in the Higher Power / F-Punk era.
Ironically, Megatop played a big part in steering my musical tastes in a direction that veered mostly away from, erm, rock 'n' roll for the next thirty-odd years (and counting).
To this day, Mick remains the only rock star I really identify with. Part of it is, I think, that you romantacise the music that you listened to in adolescence. The other is that he's just such a damn charismatic man.
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 5:56pm
by Marky Dread
MarkyJacobs wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 5:48pm
I didn't like that later stuff much, but I didn't identify Mick"s voice as being a reason. I didn't see BAD live in the Higher Power / F-Punk era.
Ironically, Megatop played a big part in steering my musical tastes in a direction that veered mostly away from, erm, rock 'n' roll for the next thirty-odd years (and counting).
To this day, Mick remains the only rock star I really identify with. Part of it is, I think, that you romantacise the music that you listened to in adolescence. The other is that he's just such a damn charismatic man.
You may have a point there. But I've always found listening only half the experience and it's thanks to The Clash that my musical horizon was expanded. Kinda like they passed down knowledge and that's the other half the learning part.
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 6:19pm
by Heston
I'm pondering what appetite there would be for a "BAD Survivor Poll."
Re: B.A.D. Observations Thread
Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 6:52pm
by Marky Dread
Heston wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 6:19pm
I'm pondering what appetite there would be for a "BAD Survivor Poll."
I would be up for it but one clusterfuck at a time mate.