ROUND 18 - Sandinista! Semifinal
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There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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Just cos there's not a song called "Something About Canada."Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:49pmA maudlin lament. Tough shit, workers, you lost. It's not about a way forward, but about mourning the past. I have very little time for that even from great bands.
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You haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).Heston wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:53pmJust cos there's not a song called "Something About Canada."Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:49pmA maudlin lament. Tough shit, workers, you lost. It's not about a way forward, but about mourning the past. I have very little time for that even from great bands.
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Does it still count if they're playing characters rather than spouting their own beliefs though?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:58pmYou haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).Heston wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:53pmJust cos there's not a song called "Something About Canada."Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:49pmA maudlin lament. Tough shit, workers, you lost. It's not about a way forward, but about mourning the past. I have very little time for that even from great bands.
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That's correct.
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The song is not nationalist at all, the opposite in fact.Kory wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 7:03pmDoes it still count if they're playing characters rather than spouting their own beliefs though?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:58pmYou haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).Heston wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:53pmJust cos there's not a song called "Something About Canada."Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:49pmA maudlin lament. Tough shit, workers, you lost. It's not about a way forward, but about mourning the past. I have very little time for that even from great bands.
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No, I know that. I was addressing the Canada part of the response. As in, I have no sentiment toward Canada or its past.Kory wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 7:03pmDoes it still count if they're playing characters rather than spouting their own beliefs though?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:58pmYou haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).Heston wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:53pmJust cos there's not a song called "Something About Canada."Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:49pmA maudlin lament. Tough shit, workers, you lost. It's not about a way forward, but about mourning the past. I have very little time for that even from great bands.
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"Ain't no party like an S Club party!'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
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Where Doc hears maudlin sentiment, I hear barely simmering anger.
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Bitter defeat, but defeat nonetheless. There is nothing forward-looking, nothing that suggests productive anger.
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I read it as a scathing in-character retort to the happy nostalgia for a nonexistent golden age of the Thatcher era, but I guess you can interpret it how you wish.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 9:17pmBitter defeat, but defeat nonetheless. There is nothing forward-looking, nothing that suggests productive anger.
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Yeah, I'm with Wolt. I think it lands differently if it was released at a different time, but to me it sounds like an indictment of 80s thatcherism as much as anything.
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*Furiously scribbles notes in doctor medulla journal*Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:58pmYou haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).
Hmmm... does NOT like Canadian nationalism, I see.
*Furrows brow*
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The thing is, I don't really disagree with you here. But I have to ask, “And …?” Calling bullshit on bullshit has value, but if there's no push forward, it's just wallowing in the long history of defeat and difficulty of the commoners. There is nothing here that calls for changing circumstances. I fail to see how that makes this a superior piece of work. It ain't wretched in the larger scheme of what popular music, then or now, offers up, but in the context of the Clash and their politics—which is what these votes limit us to—I fail to see what make this especially admirable. Joe did such better work.Wolter wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 9:29pmI read it as a scathing in-character retort to the happy nostalgia for a nonexistent golden age of the Thatcher era, but I guess you can interpret it how you wish.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 9:17pmBitter defeat, but defeat nonetheless. There is nothing forward-looking, nothing that suggests productive anger.
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I don't think anyone's ever scribbled anything furiously about me. I feel blessed.Flex wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 9:37pm*Furiously scribbles notes in doctor medulla journal*Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 6:58pmYou haven't been paying attention to me all these years if you think I've ever given the impression that I'm tolerant of maudlin sentiment or nationalism (especially Canadian nationalism).
Hmmm... does NOT like Canadian nationalism, I see.
*Furrows brow*
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