ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

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Vote for the song you like LEAST

Poll ended at 18 Jul 2019, 10:42am

Trash City
6
30%
Yalla Yalla
12
60%
Get Down Moses
2
10%
 
Total votes: 20

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Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:34pm
Heston wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:27pm
I've come around to Trash City a bit but was massively underwhelmed on release. VERY surprised it is going to make the last two.
Really good tune bloody awful mix.
I find that's part of its charm. Everything about it seems a tribute to garage rock.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:37pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:34pm
Heston wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:27pm
I've come around to Trash City a bit but was massively underwhelmed on release. VERY surprised it is going to make the last two.
Really good tune bloody awful mix.
I find that's part of its charm. Everything about it seems a tribute to garage rock.
Hmmm if it had been mixed like a quick garage rock band track it may well have sounded much better. The mix is murky and poorly done.
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:40pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:37pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:34pm
Heston wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:27pm
I've come around to Trash City a bit but was massively underwhelmed on release. VERY surprised it is going to make the last two.
Really good tune bloody awful mix.
I find that's part of its charm. Everything about it seems a tribute to garage rock.
Hmmm if it had been mixed like a quick garage rock band track it may well have sounded much better. The mix is murky and poorly done.
Prog rock snob. :shifty:
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:40pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:37pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:34pm
Heston wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:27pm
I've come around to Trash City a bit but was massively underwhelmed on release. VERY surprised it is going to make the last two.
Really good tune bloody awful mix.
I find that's part of its charm. Everything about it seems a tribute to garage rock.
Hmmm if it had been mixed like a quick garage rock band track it may well have sounded much better. The mix is murky and poorly done.
Prog rock snob. :shifty:
Punk Rock Warlord. ;)
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:43pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:40pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:37pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:34pm


Really good tune bloody awful mix.
I find that's part of its charm. Everything about it seems a tribute to garage rock.
Hmmm if it had been mixed like a quick garage rock band track it may well have sounded much better. The mix is murky and poorly done.
Prog rock snob. :shifty:
Punk Rock Warlord. ;)
Pink Rick Waldorf :ugeek:
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Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 12:56pm
Wolter wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 11:54am
Honestly, I kind of wish Mick hadn’t gotten so locked into the BAD groove and had been more restless. But I’m also that outlier that thinks BAD is overall underwhelming after a fairly strong start.
The difference between the two perhaps throws into very sharp relief who the driving force of the Clash's experimentation was. Mick was obviously the tunesmith, but I wonder how much of it was Joe saying "let's do this one as a soca tune."
Except for Mick's hip hop obsession which was very cutting edge at the time and he really saw it through with BAD.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:47pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:43pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:40pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:37pm


I find that's part of its charm. Everything about it seems a tribute to garage rock.
Hmmm if it had been mixed like a quick garage rock band track it may well have sounded much better. The mix is murky and poorly done.
Prog rock snob. :shifty:
Punk Rock Warlord. ;)
Pink Rick Waldorf :ugeek:
Boogie Woogie Child. :shifty:
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:56pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:47pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:43pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:40pm


Hmmm if it had been mixed like a quick garage rock band track it may well have sounded much better. The mix is murky and poorly done.
Prog rock snob. :shifty:
Punk Rock Warlord. ;)
Pink Rick Waldorf :ugeek:
Boogie Woogie Child. :shifty:
Low, low blow. :naughty:
"I never doubted myself for a minute for I knew that my monkey-strong bowels were girded with strength, like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo dung." - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:59pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:56pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:47pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:43pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:41pm


Prog rock snob. :shifty:
Punk Rock Warlord. ;)
Pink Rick Waldorf :ugeek:
Boogie Woogie Child. :shifty:
Low, low blow. :naughty:
...in peace and love. :mrgreen:
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:59pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:56pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:47pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:43pm


Punk Rock Warlord. ;)
Pink Rick Waldorf :ugeek:
Boogie Woogie Child. :shifty:
Low, low blow. :naughty:
...in peace and love. :mrgreen:
Hands to yourself, buster, I'm married. ;)
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:07pm
Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 12:56pm
Wolter wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 11:54am
Honestly, I kind of wish Mick hadn’t gotten so locked into the BAD groove and had been more restless. But I’m also that outlier that thinks BAD is overall underwhelming after a fairly strong start.
The difference between the two perhaps throws into very sharp relief who the driving force of the Clash's experimentation was. Mick was obviously the tunesmith, but I wonder how much of it was Joe saying "let's do this one as a soca tune."
Maybe, but it's also possible that without Mick, Joe's "wilderness years" never ended. Which is to say, Mick grounded him and gave him a confidence that he had a harder time regaining afterwards.
I thought we had Anthony Genn to thank for that?
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Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:07pm
Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 12:56pm
Wolter wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 11:54am
Honestly, I kind of wish Mick hadn’t gotten so locked into the BAD groove and had been more restless. But I’m also that outlier that thinks BAD is overall underwhelming after a fairly strong start.
The difference between the two perhaps throws into very sharp relief who the driving force of the Clash's experimentation was. Mick was obviously the tunesmith, but I wonder how much of it was Joe saying "let's do this one as a soca tune."
Maybe, but it's also possible that without Mick, Joe's "wilderness years" never ended. Which is to say, Mick grounded him and gave him a confidence that he had a harder time regaining afterwards.
I thought we had Anthony Genn to thank for that?
What do you mean by "that"?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:28pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:59pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:56pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:47pm


Pink Rick Waldorf :ugeek:
Boogie Woogie Child. :shifty:
Low, low blow. :naughty:
...in peace and love. :mrgreen:
Hands to yourself, buster, I'm married. ;)
Fine but my name's not buster. :mrgreen:
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Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:07pm
Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 12:56pm
Wolter wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 11:54am
Honestly, I kind of wish Mick hadn’t gotten so locked into the BAD groove and had been more restless. But I’m also that outlier that thinks BAD is overall underwhelming after a fairly strong start.
The difference between the two perhaps throws into very sharp relief who the driving force of the Clash's experimentation was. Mick was obviously the tunesmith, but I wonder how much of it was Joe saying "let's do this one as a soca tune."
Maybe, but it's also possible that without Mick, Joe's "wilderness years" never ended. Which is to say, Mick grounded him and gave him a confidence that he had a harder time regaining afterwards.
I thought we had Anthony Genn to thank for that?
Richard Norris.
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:16pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:28pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:59pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:56pm


Boogie Woogie Child. :shifty:
Low, low blow. :naughty:
...in peace and love. :mrgreen:
Hands to yourself, buster, I'm married. ;)
Fine but my name's not buster. :mrgreen:
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