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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by Spiff » 13 Jan 2020, 7:07pm

It's amazing to me that 90% of the people lamenting Neil Peart's passing mispronounce his last name, thereby exposing them as faux-Rush fans.

But, then, I'm not surprised ...
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by matedog » 13 Jan 2020, 7:09pm

Spiff wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:07pm
It's amazing to me that 90% of the people lamenting Neil Peart's passing mispronounce his last name, thereby exposing them as faux-Rush fans.

But, then, I'm not surprised ...
I always thought it was like "pert." Is that right?
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by Wolter » 13 Jan 2020, 7:10pm

matedog wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:09pm
Spiff wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:07pm
It's amazing to me that 90% of the people lamenting Neil Peart's passing mispronounce his last name, thereby exposing them as faux-Rush fans.

But, then, I'm not surprised ...
I always thought it was like "pert." Is that right?
That’s what I was led to believe.
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by Dr. Medulla » 13 Jan 2020, 7:30pm

Wolter wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:10pm
matedog wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:09pm
Spiff wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:07pm
It's amazing to me that 90% of the people lamenting Neil Peart's passing mispronounce his last name, thereby exposing them as faux-Rush fans.

But, then, I'm not surprised ...
I always thought it was like "pert." Is that right?
That’s what I was led to believe.
Me too. Are people saying Part?
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by Heston » 13 Jan 2020, 8:28pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:30pm
Wolter wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:10pm
matedog wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:09pm
Spiff wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:07pm
It's amazing to me that 90% of the people lamenting Neil Peart's passing mispronounce his last name, thereby exposing them as faux-Rush fans.

But, then, I'm not surprised ...
I always thought it was like "pert." Is that right?
That’s what I was led to believe.
Me too. Are people saying Part?
I've always said Pee-at but that might be my Geordie accent. My mate called him Neil "Pert" about 4 years ago and I thought he'd gone mad. I guess he was right then?
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by Heston » 13 Jan 2020, 8:31pm

Heston wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 8:28pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:30pm
Wolter wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:10pm
matedog wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:09pm
Spiff wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:07pm
It's amazing to me that 90% of the people lamenting Neil Peart's passing mispronounce his last name, thereby exposing them as faux-Rush fans.

But, then, I'm not surprised ...
I always thought it was like "pert." Is that right?
That’s what I was led to believe.
Me too. Are people saying Part?
I've always said Pee-at but that might be my Geordie accent. My mate called him Neil "Pert" about 4 years ago and I thought he'd gone mad. I guess he was right then?
And to back me up, Britain's most popular DJ, Ken Bruce pronounced it that way today on Radio 2. He is Scottish though.
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by Dr. Medulla » 13 Jan 2020, 8:33pm

Heston wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 8:28pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:30pm
Wolter wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:10pm
matedog wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:09pm
Spiff wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 7:07pm
It's amazing to me that 90% of the people lamenting Neil Peart's passing mispronounce his last name, thereby exposing them as faux-Rush fans.

But, then, I'm not surprised ...
I always thought it was like "pert." Is that right?
That’s what I was led to believe.
Me too. Are people saying Part?
I've always said Pee-at but that might be my Geordie accent. My mate called him Neil "Pert" about 4 years ago and I thought he'd gone mad. I guess he was right then?
Excuses can be made for you, given that English is not your first language. :shifty:
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by Spiff » 13 Jan 2020, 9:02pm

Rhymes with "heart" is a good approximation.

Better is the vowel sound in how an Englander would pronounce the first vowel in "Hertford."
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by Heston » 13 Jan 2020, 9:20pm

Spiff wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 9:02pm
Rhymes with "heart" is a good approximation.

Better is the vowel sound in how an Englander would pronounce the first vowel in "Hertford."


I would rhyme it with "knee-hat."
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by Dr. Medulla » 13 Jan 2020, 9:28pm

Well, I'll be:
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by BostonBeaneater » 13 Jan 2020, 10:32pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 9:28pm
Well, I'll be:
Rush is one of those groups who, while I don't care for their music, seemed decent down-to-Earth guys. It's funny how their fans are such insufferable douche bags.
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by Dr. Medulla » 13 Jan 2020, 10:51pm

BostonBeaneater wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 10:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 9:28pm
Well, I'll be:
Rush is one of those groups who, while I don't care for their music, seemed decent down-to-Earth guys. It's funny how their fans are such insufferable douche bags.
Ignoring the Randian crap, of course. I remember hearing about KISS touring with them in the 70s, and while Gene et al were working the statutory rape game backstage, the Rush guys were sitting around and reading. I picture them underlining passages from Atlas Shrugged and wondering how to write songs about parasites.
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by BostonBeaneater » 13 Jan 2020, 10:57pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 10:51pm

Ignoring the Randian crap, of course. I remember hearing about KISS touring with them in the 70s, and while Gene et al were working the statutory rape game backstage, the Rush guys were sitting around and reading. I picture them underlining passages from Atlas Shrugged and wondering how to write songs about parasites.
I would suspect their Randian leanings were Somewhat overblown. I just did a little googling and found this Peart quote from 2012,
For me, [the work of Ayn Rand] was an affirmation that it’s all right to totally believe in something and live for it and not compromise. It was a simple as that. On that 2112 album, again, I was in my early twenties. I was a kid. Now I call myself a bleeding heart libertarian. Because I do believe in the principles of libertarianism as an ideal — because I’m an idealist. Paul Theroux’s definition of a cynic is a disappointed idealist. So as you go through past your twenties, your idealism is going to be disappointed many many times. And so, I’ve brought my view and also — I’ve just realized this — libertarianism as I understood it was very good and pure and we’re all going to be successful and generous to the less fortunate and it was, to me, not dark or cynical. But then I soon saw, of course, the way that it gets twisted by the flaws of humanity. And that’s when I evolve now into . . . a bleeding-heart libertarian. That’ll do.
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by Dr. Medulla » 14 Jan 2020, 7:19am

BostonBeaneater wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 10:57pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 10:51pm

Ignoring the Randian crap, of course. I remember hearing about KISS touring with them in the 70s, and while Gene et al were working the statutory rape game backstage, the Rush guys were sitting around and reading. I picture them underlining passages from Atlas Shrugged and wondering how to write songs about parasites.
I would suspect their Randian leanings were Somewhat overblown. I just did a little googling and found this Peart quote from 2012,
For me, [the work of Ayn Rand] was an affirmation that it’s all right to totally believe in something and live for it and not compromise. It was a simple as that. On that 2112 album, again, I was in my early twenties. I was a kid. Now I call myself a bleeding heart libertarian. Because I do believe in the principles of libertarianism as an ideal — because I’m an idealist. Paul Theroux’s definition of a cynic is a disappointed idealist. So as you go through past your twenties, your idealism is going to be disappointed many many times. And so, I’ve brought my view and also — I’ve just realized this — libertarianism as I understood it was very good and pure and we’re all going to be successful and generous to the less fortunate and it was, to me, not dark or cynical. But then I soon saw, of course, the way that it gets twisted by the flaws of humanity. And that’s when I evolve now into . . . a bleeding-heart libertarian. That’ll do.
What an odd way to come at Rand. That is, there are so many other belief systems that validate ardent faith and action without all the other crap. It'd be like becoming a Nazi because you're a nationalist.
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Re: Neil Peart - RIP

Post by BostonBeaneater » 14 Jan 2020, 9:58am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Jan 2020, 7:19am
BostonBeaneater wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 10:57pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 10:51pm

Ignoring the Randian crap, of course. I remember hearing about KISS touring with them in the 70s, and while Gene et al were working the statutory rape game backstage, the Rush guys were sitting around and reading. I picture them underlining passages from Atlas Shrugged and wondering how to write songs about parasites.
I would suspect their Randian leanings were Somewhat overblown. I just did a little googling and found this Peart quote from 2012,
For me, [the work of Ayn Rand] was an affirmation that it’s all right to totally believe in something and live for it and not compromise. It was a simple as that. On that 2112 album, again, I was in my early twenties. I was a kid. Now I call myself a bleeding heart libertarian. Because I do believe in the principles of libertarianism as an ideal — because I’m an idealist. Paul Theroux’s definition of a cynic is a disappointed idealist. So as you go through past your twenties, your idealism is going to be disappointed many many times. And so, I’ve brought my view and also — I’ve just realized this — libertarianism as I understood it was very good and pure and we’re all going to be successful and generous to the less fortunate and it was, to me, not dark or cynical. But then I soon saw, of course, the way that it gets twisted by the flaws of humanity. And that’s when I evolve now into . . . a bleeding-heart libertarian. That’ll do.
What an odd way to come at Rand. That is, there are so many other belief systems that validate ardent faith and action without all the other crap. It'd be like becoming a Nazi because you're a nationalist.
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