The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

[101Walterton]

I just learned that Jesus Jones are still at it for no just reason.

Heston rebuttal in 3...2...1...

Does the UK have State Fairs?

What is a State Fair is that like a farming / agriculture or County Show or something?

[revbob]

I just learned that Jesus Jones are still at it for no just reason.

Heston rebuttal in 3...2...1...

Does the UK have State Fairs?

What is a State Fair is that like a farming / agriculture or County Show or something?

Yes!

And over here you get all these washed up bands that tour the state fairs

[Silent Majority]

Heston rebuttal in 3...2...1...

Does the UK have State Fairs?

LOL. Who else would be on that bill? Im thinking they would need 3 acts but I cant recall what other nonsense was popular then

Let's go with Ned's Atomic Dustbin and Inspiral Carpets.

The Carpets were great, don't drag them into this.

This Is How It Feels was ahead of its time. That could have charted in the early 21st century.

[Heston]

Wait you're NOT a JJ fan? Didn't they chart pretty high?

They are shit.

But...but their chart position...

1
UK Number 1s
2
UK Top 10s
3
UK Top 40s
3
UK Top 75s
1
Weeks at Number 1
4
Weeks in Top 10
19
Weeks in Top 40
30
Weeks in Top 75

Charts aren't always my judge. Only when it suits me

I truly like and respect you Heston but if we ever went out drinking its a toss up as to whether or not blood would be spilled. And to clarify, I say this as a person who is currently drunk.

[Marky Dread]

They are shit.

But...but their chart position...

1
UK Number 1s
2
UK Top 10s
3
UK Top 40s
3
UK Top 75s
1
Weeks at Number 1
4
Weeks in Top 10
19
Weeks in Top 40
30
Weeks in Top 75

Charts aren't always my judge. Only when it suits me

I truly like and respect you Heston but if we ever went out drinking its a toss up as to whether or not blood would be spilled. And to clarify, I say this as a person who is currently drunk.

As this thread took a turn to the 90s I just want it known that Heston is UNBELIEVABLE!

[Dr. Medulla]

I truly like and respect you Heston but if we ever went out drinking its a toss up as to whether or not blood would be spilled. And to clarify, I say this as a person who is currently drunk.

One of my seminar strategies (which I borrowed from a prof who taught me way back when) is to have them consider a scenario where some of the authors we've read show up in a bar. Are they going to be closing the place singing songs together, or are the cops going to be called and teeth swept up, and why? That is, does author A agree with author B, etc? How and where do they agree or disagree? You always get students going literal and saying these disagreements shouldn't come to blows, but I've found it's a fun and funny way of treating intellectual positions. And by the end of term, when we've got a good dozen scholars under our belts and everyone knows the game, that bar is full with scholars ready to throw down.

[JennyB]

I truly like and respect you Heston but if we ever went out drinking its a toss up as to whether or not blood would be spilled. And to clarify, I say this as a person who is currently drunk.

One of my seminar strategies (which I borrowed from a prof who taught me way back when) is to have them consider a scenario where some of the authors we've read show up in a bar. Are they going to be closing the place singing songs together, or are the cops going to be called and teeth swept up, and why? That is, does author A agree with author B, etc? How and where do they agree or disagree? You always get students going literal and saying these disagreements shouldn't come to blows, but I've found it's a fun and funny way of treating intellectual positions. And by the end of term, when we've got a good dozen scholars under our belts and everyone knows the game, that bar is full with scholars ready to throw down.

All I can say is that you do NOT want to piss off Judy Blume when she has been drinking.

[Dr. Medulla]

I truly like and respect you Heston but if we ever went out drinking its a toss up as to whether or not blood would be spilled. And to clarify, I say this as a person who is currently drunk.

One of my seminar strategies (which I borrowed from a prof who taught me way back when) is to have them consider a scenario where some of the authors we've read show up in a bar. Are they going to be closing the place singing songs together, or are the cops going to be called and teeth swept up, and why? That is, does author A agree with author B, etc? How and where do they agree or disagree? You always get students going literal and saying these disagreements shouldn't come to blows, but I've found it's a fun and funny way of treating intellectual positions. And by the end of term, when we've got a good dozen scholars under our belts and everyone knows the game, that bar is full with scholars ready to throw down.

All I can say is that you do NOT want to piss off Judy Blume when she has been drinking.

First-hand experience or reputation?

[JennyB]

I truly like and respect you Heston but if we ever went out drinking its a toss up as to whether or not blood would be spilled. And to clarify, I say this as a person who is currently drunk.

One of my seminar strategies (which I borrowed from a prof who taught me way back when) is to have them consider a scenario where some of the authors we've read show up in a bar. Are they going to be closing the place singing songs together, or are the cops going to be called and teeth swept up, and why? That is, does author A agree with author B, etc? How and where do they agree or disagree? You always get students going literal and saying these disagreements shouldn't come to blows, but I've found it's a fun and funny way of treating intellectual positions. And by the end of term, when we've got a good dozen scholars under our belts and everyone knows the game, that bar is full with scholars ready to throw down.

All I can say is that you do NOT want to piss off Judy Blume when she has been drinking.

First-hand experience or reputation?

Neither. I was just trying to think of a writer who would be unlikely to be thought of as a ruffian.

I'll get me coat.

[Dr. Medulla]

I truly like and respect you Heston but if we ever went out drinking its a toss up as to whether or not blood would be spilled. And to clarify, I say this as a person who is currently drunk.

One of my seminar strategies (which I borrowed from a prof who taught me way back when) is to have them consider a scenario where some of the authors we've read show up in a bar. Are they going to be closing the place singing songs together, or are the cops going to be called and teeth swept up, and why? That is, does author A agree with author B, etc? How and where do they agree or disagree? You always get students going literal and saying these disagreements shouldn't come to blows, but I've found it's a fun and funny way of treating intellectual positions. And by the end of term, when we've got a good dozen scholars under our belts and everyone knows the game, that bar is full with scholars ready to throw down.

All I can say is that you do NOT want to piss off Judy Blume when she has been drinking.

First-hand experience or reputation?

Neither. I was just trying to think of a writer who would be unlikely to be thought of as a ruffian.

I'll get me coat.

Ha! Me overthink joke and roon it. Are you there, bartender? Judy needs a refill!

[JennyB]

One of my seminar strategies (which I borrowed from a prof who taught me way back when) is to have them consider a scenario where some of the authors we've read show up in a bar. Are they going to be closing the place singing songs together, or are the cops going to be called and teeth swept up, and why? That is, does author A agree with author B, etc? How and where do they agree or disagree? You always get students going literal and saying these disagreements shouldn't come to blows, but I've found it's a fun and funny way of treating intellectual positions. And by the end of term, when we've got a good dozen scholars under our belts and everyone knows the game, that bar is full with scholars ready to throw down.

All I can say is that you do NOT want to piss off Judy Blume when she has been drinking.

First-hand experience or reputation?

Neither. I was just trying to think of a writer who would be unlikely to be thought of as a ruffian.

I'll get me coat.

Ha! Me overthink joke and roon it. Are you there, bartender? Judy needs a refill!

[matedog]

Whenever I'm at the in laws, they play modern country music. I've talked at length around here about my disdain for the genre and my inability to understand the root of my visceral disgust for it.

Regardless, I had two observations yesterday:
1. A song was playing and I thought, "this is basically Nickelback in terms of songwriting, production, and performance." I looked up the song and it was Rascal Flatts which I understand is a very popular band. More importantly, the song sounded like all the songs that came before and after it which lead me to realize that the base quality of modern country is the same as Nickelback which is considered pretty much the worst modern rock band. So standard modern country is the equivalent of the worst modern rock.

2. I got really excited when I heard a song I knew. It took me pretty much the entire song to figure out what it was, but it was "Lyin' Eyes" by The Eagles. I've never been excited to hear The Eagles before in my life.

[Dr. Medulla]

Whenever I'm at the in laws, they play modern country music. I've talked at length around here about my disdain for the genre and my inability to understand the root of my visceral disgust for it.

Regardless, I had two observations yesterday:
1. A song was playing and I thought, "this is basically Nickelback in terms of songwriting, production, and performance." I looked up the song and it was Rascal Flatts which I understand is a very popular band. More importantly, the song sounded like all the songs that came before and after it which lead me to realize that the base quality of modern country is the same as Nickelback which is considered pretty much the worst modern rock band. So standard modern country is the equivalent of the worst modern rock.

2. I got really excited when I heard a song I knew. It took me pretty much the entire song to figure out what it was, but it was "Lyin' Eyes" by The Eagles. I've never been excited to hear The Eagles before in my life.

From my limited exposure to it, modern country music is basic rock with a twang. When hip hop took over the mainstream, rock found a home in country. I'm sure there's nothing, no sir, racial in any of that.

[matedog]

Whenever I'm at the in laws, they play modern country music. I've talked at length around here about my disdain for the genre and my inability to understand the root of my visceral disgust for it.

Regardless, I had two observations yesterday:
1. A song was playing and I thought, "this is basically Nickelback in terms of songwriting, production, and performance." I looked up the song and it was Rascal Flatts which I understand is a very popular band. More importantly, the song sounded like all the songs that came before and after it which lead me to realize that the base quality of modern country is the same as Nickelback which is considered pretty much the worst modern rock band. So standard modern country is the equivalent of the worst modern rock.

2. I got really excited when I heard a song I knew. It took me pretty much the entire song to figure out what it was, but it was "Lyin' Eyes" by The Eagles. I've never been excited to hear The Eagles before in my life.

From my limited exposure to it, modern country music is basic rock with a twang. When hip hop took over the mainstream, rock found a home in country. I'm sure there's nothing, no sir, racial in any of that.

My understanding is there is the country industry controls the songwriting and production and that's likely responsible for the sterile, generic approach to the music. I don't think there is much of an analog to rock in that respect, though I may be wrong.

[Dr. Medulla]

Whenever I'm at the in laws, they play modern country music. I've talked at length around here about my disdain for the genre and my inability to understand the root of my visceral disgust for it.

Regardless, I had two observations yesterday:
1. A song was playing and I thought, "this is basically Nickelback in terms of songwriting, production, and performance." I looked up the song and it was Rascal Flatts which I understand is a very popular band. More importantly, the song sounded like all the songs that came before and after it which lead me to realize that the base quality of modern country is the same as Nickelback which is considered pretty much the worst modern rock band. So standard modern country is the equivalent of the worst modern rock.

2. I got really excited when I heard a song I knew. It took me pretty much the entire song to figure out what it was, but it was "Lyin' Eyes" by The Eagles. I've never been excited to hear The Eagles before in my life.

From my limited exposure to it, modern country music is basic rock with a twang. When hip hop took over the mainstream, rock found a home in country. I'm sure there's nothing, no sir, racial in any of that.

My understanding is there is the country industry controls the songwriting and production and that's likely responsible for the sterile, generic approach to the music. I don't think there is much of an analog to rock in that respect, though I may be wrong.

Np, you're right, but I'm talking aesthetics. Modern country sounds a lot like regular old rock from the 70s and 80s. Where do people who like regular rock go on the radio? Classic rock stations, sure, but not Top 40, which is hip hop/dance pop dominated. Gotta go to country for new mainstream rock. Rock has been predominantly white since the 60s, so it makes sense to merge with equally white country once the Top 40 format turned to more obvious black music.