But good on Kareem for writing it.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑15 Jul 2020, 7:18pmhttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... od-1303210
I admit that I'm only vaguely aware of these antisemitic incidences—a Jewish friend recently asked me about the Eagles one, but otherwise I haven't clued in on any of this. Sad that a column like this still has to be written.
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An extremely rare athlete—intelligent, critical, and not unafraid to be publicly grouchy.revbob wrote: ↑15 Jul 2020, 7:38pmBut good on Kareem for writing it.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑15 Jul 2020, 7:18pmhttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... od-1303210
I admit that I'm only vaguely aware of these antisemitic incidences—a Jewish friend recently asked me about the Eagles one, but otherwise I haven't clued in on any of this. Sad that a column like this still has to be written.
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Holy fucking smokes, I don't think I'd heard of any of those incidencea. Horrible that folks are saying these things, and good for Kareem for calling it.
He's right: peddling in this shit undermines whatever social justice you're trying to achieve.
He's right: peddling in this shit undermines whatever social justice you're trying to achieve.
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Rule of thumb, Kareem is an excellent moral compass. This is difficult for me to say about a Laker but I love that man. He's a fantastic American.
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He's proven himself to be.BostonBeaneater wrote: ↑15 Jul 2020, 10:56pmRule of thumb, Kareem is an excellent moral compass. This is difficult for me to say about a Laker but I love that man. He's a fantastic American.
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Go fuck yourself hard and raw, Cube: https://www.newsweek.com/ice-cube-slams ... es-1518176
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ugh. there goes any pleasure i got from his music. gross.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑16 Jul 2020, 4:58pmGo fuck yourself hard and raw, Cube: https://www.newsweek.com/ice-cube-slams ... es-1518176
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Fuck the Police is a great song but I cant say Ive ever been a fan of anything else. Ice Cube has made antisemitic remarks before back in the late 80s or early 90s.Flex wrote: ↑16 Jul 2020, 5:04pmugh. there goes any pleasure i got from his music. gross.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑16 Jul 2020, 4:58pmGo fuck yourself hard and raw, Cube: https://www.newsweek.com/ice-cube-slams ... es-1518176
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Yeah, I guess I've heard a few things here and there. Besides NWA, his first solo album is a stone cold classic and he has some good stuff here and there after that. But not good enough.
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I'd go as far to say his first four solo albums are considered classics (Amerikkkas Most Wanted / Death Certificate / The Predator / Lethal Injection) and he's only really had a couple of duds but each one has at least one song where you think "stop talking Ice Cube" due to misogyny, homophobia or anti-antisemitism and it's hard to listen without cringing a a little bit.
It always seemed like rappers could get away with it until someone stepped up and called it out. Maybe we're at that point.
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One of the books I assigned this year was Tricia Rose's The Hip Hop Wars: What We Talk About When We Talk About Hip Hop—And Why It Matters. It deals with the problem of white racism and vulgar hip hop's trafficking in misogyny and glorificatio of predatory criminality and violence. That is, the difficulty of criticizing the latter without sitting amongst the former. The more underlying argument is that both white conservatives and vulgar hip hop are actually working in tandem to promote a debased idea of black culture and worth, and that fans are complicit by buying those records. Boiled down, she says be better, be more demanding, and don't make excuses for horrible people. The book is a bit dated now in terms of vulgar hip hop's popularity and media coverage, but the point about being more ethical consumers still stands.
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I mean, there's a place for anti-social nasty shit in music, blasting out some catharsis, but fuck if I know where to draw the line.
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It's tough … and tougher in more recent years. Back in the 90s, the academic buzzword was transgressive, where shitty words and actions could be spun into a resistance guided by, in some measure, irony. It retrospect, it feels more like rationalizing punching down to make it seem like we were punching up. There may have been some therapeutic pleasure from trafficking in rude humour and the like, but it's hard to see it as being politically or morally justifiable.Silent Majority wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 11:16amI mean, there's a place for anti-social nasty shit in music, blasting out some catharsis, but fuck if I know where to draw the line.
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I see (hear) no difference between crap like Skrewdriver and hip hop that goes down the vulgarity route. Both are promoting bad stuff and neither are positive.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 9:16amOne of the books I assigned this year was Tricia Rose's The Hip Hop Wars: What We Talk About When We Talk About Hip Hop—And Why It Matters. It deals with the problem of white racism and vulgar hip hop's trafficking in misogyny and glorificatio of predatory criminality and violence. That is, the difficulty of criticizing the latter without sitting amongst the former. The more underlying argument is that both white conservatives and vulgar hip hop are actually working in tandem to promote a debased idea of black culture and worth, and that fans are complicit by buying those records. Boiled down, she says be better, be more demanding, and don't make excuses for horrible people. The book is a bit dated now in terms of vulgar hip hop's popularity and media coverage, but the point about being more ethical consumers still stands.
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Man, for a bunch of punk fans, we all sure seem churchy.Marky Dread wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 11:51amI see (hear) no difference between crap like Skrewdriver and hip hop that goes down the vulgarity route. Both are promoting bad stuff and neither are positive.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 9:16amOne of the books I assigned this year was Tricia Rose's The Hip Hop Wars: What We Talk About When We Talk About Hip Hop—And Why It Matters. It deals with the problem of white racism and vulgar hip hop's trafficking in misogyny and glorificatio of predatory criminality and violence. That is, the difficulty of criticizing the latter without sitting amongst the former. The more underlying argument is that both white conservatives and vulgar hip hop are actually working in tandem to promote a debased idea of black culture and worth, and that fans are complicit by buying those records. Boiled down, she says be better, be more demanding, and don't make excuses for horrible people. The book is a bit dated now in terms of vulgar hip hop's popularity and media coverage, but the point about being more ethical consumers still stands.
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