Top 40, my friend. A *lot* of crap. Me and Heston would have gotten along a lot better back then.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 3:51pmI think you must have been listening to a lot of crap music then. Maybe you just had bad taste.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 3:57pmAnd punk encourages that kind of harsh rejection anyway. Discovering punk meant getting rid of all my old records and changing my clothes and changing my interests. If my shitty town had other punks, I would have changed my friends.
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Pre punk I listened to a lot of 60s band's Stones/Beatles/Who/Small Faces/Yardbirds - Glam stuff Slade/Sweet/Bowie/T-Rex/Roxy Music. A lot of the better stuff my mum had. It's odd I never considered for a second how fortunate I was to have access to great stuff in the home.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 3:56pmTop 40, my friend. A *lot* of crap. Me and Heston would have gotten along a lot better back then.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 3:51pmI think you must have been listening to a lot of crap music then. Maybe you just had bad taste.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 3:57pmAnd punk encourages that kind of harsh rejection anyway. Discovering punk meant getting rid of all my old records and changing my clothes and changing my interests. If my shitty town had other punks, I would have changed my friends.
We would (my brother and I) record most weeks top 40s on a old reel to reel. So yeah plenty of crap as well.
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My Top 40 was early to mid-80s stuff—including garbage that benefited greatly on Canadian content rules that privileged homegrown "talent"—so not even the great stuff from the 60s that gained mainstream appeal. Funny that I didn't really get into the Beatles until after I found punk. It really expanded my perspective beyond just punk/alternative.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 4:50pmPre punk I listened to a lot of 60s band's Stones/Beatles/Who/Small Faces/Yardbirds - Glam stuff Slade/Sweet/Bowie/T-Rex/Roxy Music. A lot of the better stuff my mum had. It's odd I never considered for a second how fortunate I was to have access to great stuff in the home.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 3:56pmTop 40, my friend. A *lot* of crap. Me and Heston would have gotten along a lot better back then.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 3:51pmI think you must have been listening to a lot of crap music then. Maybe you just had bad taste.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 3:57pmAnd punk encourages that kind of harsh rejection anyway. Discovering punk meant getting rid of all my old records and changing my clothes and changing my interests. If my shitty town had other punks, I would have changed my friends.
We would (my brother and I) record most weeks top 40s on a old reel to reel. So yeah plenty of crap as well.
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I think it's great that punk was supposedly anti Beatles and that was your way in.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:11pmMy Top 40 was early to mid-80s stuff—including garbage that benefited greatly on Canadian content rules that privileged homegrown "talent"—so not even the great stuff from the 60s that gained mainstream appeal. Funny that I didn't really get into the Beatles until after I found punk. It really expanded my perspective beyond just punk/alternative.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 4:50pmPre punk I listened to a lot of 60s band's Stones/Beatles/Who/Small Faces/Yardbirds - Glam stuff Slade/Sweet/Bowie/T-Rex/Roxy Music. A lot of the better stuff my mum had. It's odd I never considered for a second how fortunate I was to have access to great stuff in the home.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 3:56pmTop 40, my friend. A *lot* of crap. Me and Heston would have gotten along a lot better back then.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 3:51pmI think you must have been listening to a lot of crap music then. Maybe you just had bad taste.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 3:57pmAnd punk encourages that kind of harsh rejection anyway. Discovering punk meant getting rid of all my old records and changing my clothes and changing my interests. If my shitty town had other punks, I would have changed my friends.
We would (my brother and I) record most weeks top 40s on a old reel to reel. So yeah plenty of crap as well.
I say supposedly because obviously the sound of those Hamburg Beatles is just a blue print for a lot of punk rock.
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Generally, punk encouraged me to be more curious and to go beyond what was currently popular. I didn't approach the Beatles as classic or oldie so much as stuff that wasn't being listened to by my peersMarky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:18pmI think it's great that punk was supposedly anti Beatles and that was your way in.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:11pmMy Top 40 was early to mid-80s stuff—including garbage that benefited greatly on Canadian content rules that privileged homegrown "talent"—so not even the great stuff from the 60s that gained mainstream appeal. Funny that I didn't really get into the Beatles until after I found punk. It really expanded my perspective beyond just punk/alternative.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 4:50pmPre punk I listened to a lot of 60s band's Stones/Beatles/Who/Small Faces/Yardbirds - Glam stuff Slade/Sweet/Bowie/T-Rex/Roxy Music. A lot of the better stuff my mum had. It's odd I never considered for a second how fortunate I was to have access to great stuff in the home.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 3:56pmTop 40, my friend. A *lot* of crap. Me and Heston would have gotten along a lot better back then.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 3:51pm
I think you must have been listening to a lot of crap music then. Maybe you just had bad taste.
We would (my brother and I) record most weeks top 40s on a old reel to reel. So yeah plenty of crap as well.
I say supposedly because obviously the sound of those Hamburg Beatles is just a blue print for a lot of punk rock.
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This is the argument I've had with people for years now. That punk for all it's alleged anti stance to previous era's music the reality is that it helped people find decent stuff. The Damned covererd the Beatles Help the Pistols covered The Who and The Monkees, The Clash borrowed riffs from The Who and The Kinks in turn turning fans onto stuff from the previous era. All that talk of year zero is really nonsense as you have to build your foundation on something solid.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:39pmGenerally, punk encouraged me to be more curious and to go beyond what was currently popular. I didn't approach the Beatles as classic or oldie so much as stuff that wasn't being listened to by my peersMarky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:18pmI think it's great that punk was supposedly anti Beatles and that was your way in.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:11pmMy Top 40 was early to mid-80s stuff—including garbage that benefited greatly on Canadian content rules that privileged homegrown "talent"—so not even the great stuff from the 60s that gained mainstream appeal. Funny that I didn't really get into the Beatles until after I found punk. It really expanded my perspective beyond just punk/alternative.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 4:50pmPre punk I listened to a lot of 60s band's Stones/Beatles/Who/Small Faces/Yardbirds - Glam stuff Slade/Sweet/Bowie/T-Rex/Roxy Music. A lot of the better stuff my mum had. It's odd I never considered for a second how fortunate I was to have access to great stuff in the home.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 3:56pm
Top 40, my friend. A *lot* of crap. Me and Heston would have gotten along a lot better back then.
We would (my brother and I) record most weeks top 40s on a old reel to reel. So yeah plenty of crap as well.
I say supposedly because obviously the sound of those Hamburg Beatles is just a blue print for a lot of punk rock.
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Curfews have been curbing
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Perhaps it's whether you're drawn to postpunk or stuck to the punk that came after. Postpunk was that "what's next?" that encouraged new ideas and revisiting the past for reinterpretation. Punk, for the next decade or so anyway, kept going year zero to absurd lengths—faster, louder, shorter, anti-melodic. I can appreciate that from an intellectual standpoint, but it mostly does nothing for me to listen to.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 6:10pmThis is the argument I've had with people for years now. That punk for all it's alleged anti stance to previous era's music the reality is that it helped people find decent stuff. The Damned covererd the Beatles Help the Pistols covered The Who and The Monkees, The Clash borrowed riffs from The Who and The Kinks in turn turning fans onto stuff from the previous era. All that talk of year zero is really nonsense as you have to build your foundation on something solid.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:39pmGenerally, punk encouraged me to be more curious and to go beyond what was currently popular. I didn't approach the Beatles as classic or oldie so much as stuff that wasn't being listened to by my peersMarky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:18pmI think it's great that punk was supposedly anti Beatles and that was your way in.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:11pmMy Top 40 was early to mid-80s stuff—including garbage that benefited greatly on Canadian content rules that privileged homegrown "talent"—so not even the great stuff from the 60s that gained mainstream appeal. Funny that I didn't really get into the Beatles until after I found punk. It really expanded my perspective beyond just punk/alternative.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 4:50pm
Pre punk I listened to a lot of 60s band's Stones/Beatles/Who/Small Faces/Yardbirds - Glam stuff Slade/Sweet/Bowie/T-Rex/Roxy Music. A lot of the better stuff my mum had. It's odd I never considered for a second how fortunate I was to have access to great stuff in the home.
We would (my brother and I) record most weeks top 40s on a old reel to reel. So yeah plenty of crap as well.
I say supposedly because obviously the sound of those Hamburg Beatles is just a blue print for a lot of punk rock.
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Some band's depending on which scene they were from then yes I agree.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 7:23pmPerhaps it's whether you're drawn to postpunk or stuck to the punk that came after. Postpunk was that "what's next?" that encouraged new ideas and revisiting the past for reinterpretation. Punk, for the next decade or so anyway, kept going year zero to absurd lengths—faster, louder, shorter, anti-melodic. I can appreciate that from an intellectual standpoint, but it mostly does nothing for me to listen to.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 6:10pmThis is the argument I've had with people for years now. That punk for all it's alleged anti stance to previous era's music the reality is that it helped people find decent stuff. The Damned covererd the Beatles Help the Pistols covered The Who and The Monkees, The Clash borrowed riffs from The Who and The Kinks in turn turning fans onto stuff from the previous era. All that talk of year zero is really nonsense as you have to build your foundation on something solid.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:39pmGenerally, punk encouraged me to be more curious and to go beyond what was currently popular. I didn't approach the Beatles as classic or oldie so much as stuff that wasn't being listened to by my peersMarky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:18pmI think it's great that punk was supposedly anti Beatles and that was your way in.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:11pm
My Top 40 was early to mid-80s stuff—including garbage that benefited greatly on Canadian content rules that privileged homegrown "talent"—so not even the great stuff from the 60s that gained mainstream appeal. Funny that I didn't really get into the Beatles until after I found punk. It really expanded my perspective beyond just punk/alternative.
I say supposedly because obviously the sound of those Hamburg Beatles is just a blue print for a lot of punk rock.
My two personal faves from that period being Husker Du and The Replacements started out raucous and became more and more melodic. Much like the punk bands from England who I admire Clash/SLF/Damned and so on.
I think a lot of groups veered away from punk as they became more proficient on there instruments. You either got stuck in a rut going bang bang bang night after night or you harnessed that power and moved on.
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Right—the more interesting bands came to see the hardcore ideal as restrictive and an artistic cul de sac. Others were the Exploited.Marky Dread wrote: ↑26 Jul 2020, 4:37amSome band's depending on which scene they were from then yes I agree.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 7:23pmPerhaps it's whether you're drawn to postpunk or stuck to the punk that came after. Postpunk was that "what's next?" that encouraged new ideas and revisiting the past for reinterpretation. Punk, for the next decade or so anyway, kept going year zero to absurd lengths—faster, louder, shorter, anti-melodic. I can appreciate that from an intellectual standpoint, but it mostly does nothing for me to listen to.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 6:10pmThis is the argument I've had with people for years now. That punk for all it's alleged anti stance to previous era's music the reality is that it helped people find decent stuff. The Damned covererd the Beatles Help the Pistols covered The Who and The Monkees, The Clash borrowed riffs from The Who and The Kinks in turn turning fans onto stuff from the previous era. All that talk of year zero is really nonsense as you have to build your foundation on something solid.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:39pmGenerally, punk encouraged me to be more curious and to go beyond what was currently popular. I didn't approach the Beatles as classic or oldie so much as stuff that wasn't being listened to by my peersMarky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:18pm
I think it's great that punk was supposedly anti Beatles and that was your way in.
I say supposedly because obviously the sound of those Hamburg Beatles is just a blue print for a lot of punk rock.
My two personal faves from that period being Husker Du and The Replacements started out raucous and became more and more melodic. Much like the punk bands from England who I admire Clash/SLF/Damned and so on.
I think a lot of groups veered away from punk as they became more proficient on there instruments. You either got stuck in a rut going bang bang bang night after night or you harnessed that power and moved on.
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Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jul 2020, 6:49amRight—the more interesting bands came to see the hardcore ideal as restrictive and an artistic cul de sac. Others were the Exploited.Marky Dread wrote: ↑26 Jul 2020, 4:37amSome band's depending on which scene they were from then yes I agree.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 7:23pmPerhaps it's whether you're drawn to postpunk or stuck to the punk that came after. Postpunk was that "what's next?" that encouraged new ideas and revisiting the past for reinterpretation. Punk, for the next decade or so anyway, kept going year zero to absurd lengths—faster, louder, shorter, anti-melodic. I can appreciate that from an intellectual standpoint, but it mostly does nothing for me to listen to.Marky Dread wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 6:10pmThis is the argument I've had with people for years now. That punk for all it's alleged anti stance to previous era's music the reality is that it helped people find decent stuff. The Damned covererd the Beatles Help the Pistols covered The Who and The Monkees, The Clash borrowed riffs from The Who and The Kinks in turn turning fans onto stuff from the previous era. All that talk of year zero is really nonsense as you have to build your foundation on something solid.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 5:39pm
Generally, punk encouraged me to be more curious and to go beyond what was currently popular. I didn't approach the Beatles as classic or oldie so much as stuff that wasn't being listened to by my peers
My two personal faves from that period being Husker Du and The Replacements started out raucous and became more and more melodic. Much like the punk bands from England who I admire Clash/SLF/Damned and so on.
I think a lot of groups veered away from punk as they became more proficient on there instruments. You either got stuck in a rut going bang bang bang night after night or you harnessed that power and moved on.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
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No fuchsias for you.
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Not sure I'm tracking this argument. Almost sounds like you're saying the exploited aren't good, but that doesn't make any sense.
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Strictly speaking, I implied they aren't interesting.
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49) The Dead Zone - Stephen King. 1979. Paperback. It's been a while since I've read a King (just over a year, my notes tell me, actually) and longer since I've done one from his golden age. This was my first read of the Dead Zone and also the first time I brought what I learnt from writing my novel to one of his books - which is an interesting one, cos as a teen he was the Writemaster General, a man who can do no wrong. That means holding a paperback with his name on it is total comfort food but that's pleasantly mixed with the enjoying the storytelling as I ever did when I was younger and being able to watch the mechanics, the hydraulics of the narrative, as they move. There's sentences that I would have edited out (one like feeling he had a bladder full of hot blood, and a reference to "that novel Carrie" that lands with an audible thump) but on the whole it's just like picking up the guitar to strum along with songs that you love, and then learning the songs without the record accompanying them. You get inside the work and gain a greater appreciation for the creative act that birthed it. President Stillson was always an American inevitability which gives 70s King an air of prescience in 2020. It really is a very good novel about getting better after a coma. I'm probably (damn you nerd brain) probably now going to cross off the rest of the man's oeuvre that I've yet to read in order.
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50) Tomb of Dracula #1 - 25 - Marv Wolfman and Gene Colan. Comic. 1972 - 1975. Marvel Dracula is pretty much the definitive take on the character, easily kicking Stoker's novel and all the films to the curb. Arrogant, self obsessed, grandiloquent, forever being bettered by his perceived inferiors (at one point, a fucking mountain goat!) and with a healthy dose of charm, he's as compelling an anti-hero as you could ask for. The highlights include the artwork which is beautiful and in the EC comics tradition, the first appearance of a very blaxpoitation Blade, and the delight of the plotting, like the endless sequels you always wished for. Man, I love this shit so much.
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Good at what...being bad?
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