You are the worst dictator in the history of history.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:55amBecause the voting stage normally precludes this—there's normally one that achieves over 50%. This is just a way of still picking a winner without it being my preference, as if I voted.Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:50amYes but it's tied at 9/9. So the people have already spoken via their votes. If you are going to be swayed by someone giving you a strong argument for inclusion then why bother voting?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:46amMy goal from the start was to have minimal input beyond the initial guidelines. The results are supposed to come down to the rest of you. That's why I'm looking for arguments one way or another. Seems silly to me that it would come down to what I like.Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:25amIn the context of the album I don't see it making a jot of difference to what appears to me to be a very disjointed album already. Either song would fit. It's surely a case of which song wins in a the breaker. As it currently stands as a draw I thought you had final sway?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:19am
I don't really understand this. I'm soliciting more arguments for either song, and specifically asking whether people think one song or the other makes better sense within the context of the "album" this far.
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In the case of Trump/Putin v. The World, mail voting was declared illegitimate. Sorry.revbob wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:55amOk well my absentee ballot was post marked by the appropriate time and Im sure it will arrive in the next day or two.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:51amAfter the revolution toppled the regime, Rule 101W was declared a crime against the people. I
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Second worst, I hope.
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You are worst non music related dictator in the history of history.
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New entry for the c.v.!Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:01amYou are worst non music related dictator in the history of history.
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This, to me, is pretty good tiebreaker material (I'm favor of Garbage, to be clear). If the song under consideration isn't even its best version, how can it be on an all time greatest collection?Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:55amRight though it should make no difference to the outcome.
Here's my view. "They Don't Know" is a cover of which the original is better by a country mile.
"Stupid Girl" is an original song using a sample of a great track.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a bowl of soup
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
Pex Lives!
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
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Now can we get crab juice on here?Flex wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:10amThis, to me, is pretty good tiebreaker material (I'm favor of Garbage, to be clear). If the song under consideration isn't even its best version, how can it be on an all time greatest collection?Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:55amRight though it should make no difference to the outcome.
Here's my view. "They Don't Know" is a cover of which the original is better by a country mile.
"Stupid Girl" is an original song using a sample of a great track.
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Anyone who wears it like a badge of honour gets my vote.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:08amNew entry for the c.v.!Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:01amYou are worst non music related dictator in the history of history.
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Got to agree with the Lord of Kickbacks here.Flex wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:10amThis, to me, is pretty good tiebreaker material (I'm favor of Garbage, to be clear). If the song under consideration isn't even its best version, how can it be on an all time greatest collection?Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:55amRight though it should make no difference to the outcome.
Here's my view. "They Don't Know" is a cover of which the original is better by a country mile.
"Stupid Girl" is an original song using a sample of a great track.
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I think it is the best version. I know Kirsty is much cooler than Tracey and greatly missed but I thought Tracey's version was more sprightly and she sings it very well. And you get the bonus of Kirsty on very prominent harmonies. It was also the first version I heard as Kirsty's version never charted.Flex wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:10amThis, to me, is pretty good tiebreaker material (I'm favor of Garbage, to be clear). If the song under consideration isn't even its best version, how can it be on an all time greatest collection?Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:55amRight though it should make no difference to the outcome.
Here's my view. "They Don't Know" is a cover of which the original is better by a country mile.
"Stupid Girl" is an original song using a sample of a great track.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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So clearly the inferior version.Heston wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:46amI think it is the best version. I know Kirsty is much cooler than Tracey and greatly missed but I thought Tracey's version was more sprightly and she sings it very well. And you get the bonus of Kirsty on very prominent harmonies. It was also the first version I heard as Kirsty's version never charted.Flex wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:10amThis, to me, is pretty good tiebreaker material (I'm favor of Garbage, to be clear). If the song under consideration isn't even its best version, how can it be on an all time greatest collection?Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:55amRight though it should make no difference to the outcome.
Here's my view. "They Don't Know" is a cover of which the original is better by a country mile.
"Stupid Girl" is an original song using a sample of a great track.
I say Doc should vote Garbage because that is what I would have voted for if not for the polls being closed down early to subvert democracy.
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Didn't because...Heston wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:46amI think it is the best version. I know Kirsty is much cooler than Tracey and greatly missed but I thought Tracey's version was more sprightly and she sings it very well. And you get the bonus of Kirsty on very prominent harmonies. It was also the first version I heard as Kirsty's version never charted.Flex wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:10amThis, to me, is pretty good tiebreaker material (I'm favor of Garbage, to be clear). If the song under consideration isn't even its best version, how can it be on an all time greatest collection?Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:55amRight though it should make no difference to the outcome.
Here's my view. "They Don't Know" is a cover of which the original is better by a country mile.
"Stupid Girl" is an original song using a sample of a great track.
MacColl's "They Don't Know" reached number two on the Music Week airplay chart[4] without generating sufficient sales to reach the UK Singles Chart - a shortfall blamed on a strike at the distributors for Stiff Records keeping the single out of stores, although its producer Liam Sternberg attributes the failure of "They Don't Know" to ill feeling which developed between MacColl and Stiff Records president Dave Robinson: (Sternberg quote:) "Kirsty and Dave didn’t get along...She didn’t want to sign a longer deal, so Dave didn’t promote the record. [Despite] airplay...they didn’t press any more [so] no records [were] sold because there were no records out there."[1] Promo copies of a followup single: "You Caught Me Out", were pressed in October 1979 but Stiff opted to shelve the single, with MacColl's first release subsequent to "They Don't Know" being her remake of "Keep Your Hands Off My Baby" released in 1981 on Polydor.
Kirsty's version is so better than Tracey's it hurts.
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Well it's not like they're radically different. I certainly prefer Kirsty as a singer but I just like the vibe on the Tracey version.Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 10:19amDidn't because...Heston wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:46amI think it is the best version. I know Kirsty is much cooler than Tracey and greatly missed but I thought Tracey's version was more sprightly and she sings it very well. And you get the bonus of Kirsty on very prominent harmonies. It was also the first version I heard as Kirsty's version never charted.Flex wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 9:10amThis, to me, is pretty good tiebreaker material (I'm favor of Garbage, to be clear). If the song under consideration isn't even its best version, how can it be on an all time greatest collection?Marky Dread wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 8:55amRight though it should make no difference to the outcome.
Here's my view. "They Don't Know" is a cover of which the original is better by a country mile.
"Stupid Girl" is an original song using a sample of a great track.
MacColl's "They Don't Know" reached number two on the Music Week airplay chart[4] without generating sufficient sales to reach the UK Singles Chart - a shortfall blamed on a strike at the distributors for Stiff Records keeping the single out of stores, although its producer Liam Sternberg attributes the failure of "They Don't Know" to ill feeling which developed between MacColl and Stiff Records president Dave Robinson: (Sternberg quote:) "Kirsty and Dave didn’t get along...She didn’t want to sign a longer deal, so Dave didn’t promote the record. [Despite] airplay...they didn’t press any more [so] no records [were] sold because there were no records out there."[1] Promo copies of a followup single: "You Caught Me Out", were pressed in October 1979 but Stiff opted to shelve the single, with MacColl's first release subsequent to "They Don't Know" being her remake of "Keep Your Hands Off My Baby" released in 1981 on Polydor.
Kirsty's version is so better than Tracey's it hurts.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board