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Dr. Medulla wrote:
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Sometimes incompetence reveals greater truths: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/1 ... ets-414883
Yeah saw that this morning. Migs and soldiers with AK47s.

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i just got disowned by my Qanon-believing mother for telling her that she was gullible to believe a meme she retweeted about antifa starting the forest fires.
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eumaas wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:25pm
i just got disowned by my Qanon-believing mother for telling her that she was gullible to believe a meme she retweeted about antifa starting the forest fires.
jesus, sorry gene. your mom took a pretty hard swing over the last few years, huh?
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Flex wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:26pm
eumaas wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:25pm
i just got disowned by my Qanon-believing mother for telling her that she was gullible to believe a meme she retweeted about antifa starting the forest fires.
jesus, sorry gene. your mom took a pretty hard swing over the last few years, huh?
There's a collective psychosis going on in this country and I'm not sure it can be stopped.
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eumaas wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:25pm
i just got disowned by my Qanon-believing mother for telling her that she was gullible to believe a meme she retweeted about antifa starting the forest fires.
Ugh, very sorry to read this. It's hard to understand the madness that is sweeping the land and who'll get it,
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eumaas wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:25pm
i just got disowned by my Qanon-believing mother for telling her that she was gullible to believe a meme she retweeted about antifa starting the forest fires.
I'm so sorry. Half of my family are being sucked in by this shit, and it is heart breaking and infuriating all at once.

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Mimi wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:38pm
eumaas wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:25pm
i just got disowned by my Qanon-believing mother for telling her that she was gullible to believe a meme she retweeted about antifa starting the forest fires.
I'm so sorry. Half of my family are being sucked in by this shit, and it is heart breaking and infuriating all at once.
Yeah same. I think my sister is getting pulled in deeper. We have a mutual truce right now. But we wre all chatting recently and I forget how but Bill Gates came up and she showed an unusually high level of animosity towards him for a non technical person. I was then listening to the radio the other day and apparently he's a big qanon target (part of the liberal elite child exploitation ring) apparently.

I also visited my aunt who was like a 2nd mother when I was a kid and she has a big Trump flag flying.

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revbob wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:49pm
Mimi wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:38pm
eumaas wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:25pm
i just got disowned by my Qanon-believing mother for telling her that she was gullible to believe a meme she retweeted about antifa starting the forest fires.
I'm so sorry. Half of my family are being sucked in by this shit, and it is heart breaking and infuriating all at once.
Yeah same. I think my sister is getting pulled in deeper. We have a mutual truce right now. But we wre all chatting recently and I forget how but Bill Gates came up and she showed an unusually high level of animosity towards him for a non technical person. I was then listening to the radio the other day and apparently he's a big qanon target (part of the liberal elite child exploitation ring) apparently.

I also visited my aunt who was like a 2nd mother when I was a kid and she has a big Trump flag flying.
I can't tell you how much this makes me heart and brain ache.

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My mom is on the fringe of it too. Believes in really weird shit, like secret Roman bloodlines.
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Mimi wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:55pm
revbob wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:49pm
Mimi wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:38pm
eumaas wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:25pm
i just got disowned by my Qanon-believing mother for telling her that she was gullible to believe a meme she retweeted about antifa starting the forest fires.
I'm so sorry. Half of my family are being sucked in by this shit, and it is heart breaking and infuriating all at once.
Yeah same. I think my sister is getting pulled in deeper. We have a mutual truce right now. But we wre all chatting recently and I forget how but Bill Gates came up and she showed an unusually high level of animosity towards him for a non technical person. I was then listening to the radio the other day and apparently he's a big qanon target (part of the liberal elite child exploitation ring) apparently.

I also visited my aunt who was like a 2nd mother when I was a kid and she has a big Trump flag flying.
I can't tell you how much this makes me heart and brain ache.
Yeah they have both taken hard swings to the right and I don't understand why.

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I think it's in EP Thompson's The Making of the English Working Class, where he discusses religious revivals that took place during the turmoil of the early industrial revolution. There was the suggestion that people looked at the destruction of centuries-old ways of life, of people forced from their land, forced to work in, as Marx and Engels put it, "Satanic mills," and saw the work of the devil on earth. So this religion was heavy on being abandoned by god and a time of reckoning at hand as Satan marshalled his forces. It was how people translated their anxiety. The severe upsurge in conspiracy theories—especially the really crazy ones—reminds me of that. How do people deal with constant upheaval and personal dislocation these days? They turn to metanarratives of grand evil forces that are ruining their lives. There's some comfort in that—it's an explanation that there is somebody in charge, evil tho they may be. The scarier option is that what is happening has no meaning or purpose, their lives suck for abstract reasons of economic formulae and incremental environmental degradation caused by everybody's small acts.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 3:10pm
I think it's in EP Thompson's The Making of the English Working Class, where he discusses religious revivals that took place during the turmoil of the early industrial revolution. There was the suggestion that people looked at the destruction of centuries-old ways of life, of people forced from their land, forced to work in, as Marx and Engels put it, "Satanic mills," and saw the work of the devil on earth. So this religion was heavy on being abandoned by god and a time of reckoning at hand as Satan marshalled his forces. It was how people translated their anxiety. The severe upsurge in conspiracy theories—especially the really crazy ones—reminds me of that. How do people deal with constant upheaval and personal dislocation these days? They turn to metanarratives of grand evil forces that are ruining their lives. There's some comfort in that—it's an explanation that there is somebody in charge, evil tho they may be. The scarier option is that what is happening has no meaning or purpose, their lives suck for abstract reasons of economic formulae and incremental environmental degradation caused by everybody's small acts.
Ya know, I believe this might be it. Most of the folks in my family who believe this stuff are sooper-dooper religious. The end is nigh, dontcha know.

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eumaas wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 2:25pm
i just got disowned by my Qanon-believing mother for telling her that she was gullible to believe a meme she retweeted about antifa starting the forest fires.
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Mimi wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 3:18pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Sep 2020, 3:10pm
I think it's in EP Thompson's The Making of the English Working Class, where he discusses religious revivals that took place during the turmoil of the early industrial revolution. There was the suggestion that people looked at the destruction of centuries-old ways of life, of people forced from their land, forced to work in, as Marx and Engels put it, "Satanic mills," and saw the work of the devil on earth. So this religion was heavy on being abandoned by god and a time of reckoning at hand as Satan marshalled his forces. It was how people translated their anxiety. The severe upsurge in conspiracy theories—especially the really crazy ones—reminds me of that. How do people deal with constant upheaval and personal dislocation these days? They turn to metanarratives of grand evil forces that are ruining their lives. There's some comfort in that—it's an explanation that there is somebody in charge, evil tho they may be. The scarier option is that what is happening has no meaning or purpose, their lives suck for abstract reasons of economic formulae and incremental environmental degradation caused by everybody's small acts.
Ya know, I believe this might be it. Most of the folks in my family who believe this stuff are sooper-dooper religious. The end is nigh, dontcha know.
People who need metanarratives will find them. It's just a question of where they'll push a person.
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Shit. I'm sorry, Gene.
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