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matedog wrote:
30 Sep 2020, 9:21am
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30 Sep 2020, 9:06am
Combat Rock has some brilliant Clash tracks.

But I got to be honest I play "This Is England" and "Three Card Trick" way more than "Death Is a Star" and "Atom Tan".
So the best tracks on CTC are better than the worst on CR? That doesn't seem particularly controversial.
Not in the least bit controversial for me. It's just making me smile people putting these Clash albums in preference and not including CTC. You don't have to like it and I respect that but denying it's existence seems nuts now.
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Marky Dread wrote:
30 Sep 2020, 8:40am
Low Down Low wrote:
30 Sep 2020, 8:34am
LC
S!
S/T
CR
GEER

That's it, isn't it? Think that's all anyway.

And fwiw, top 5 comps/live:

SS
FHTE
SBMC
COB
Story
So Cut the Crap doesn't exist?
No, it's obviously no.6. I was just sorta trying to be funny but missed the mark (not for the first time).

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Low Down Low wrote:
30 Sep 2020, 9:30am
Marky Dread wrote:
30 Sep 2020, 8:40am
Low Down Low wrote:
30 Sep 2020, 8:34am
LC
S!
S/T
CR
GEER

That's it, isn't it? Think that's all anyway.

And fwiw, top 5 comps/live:

SS
FHTE
SBMC
COB
Story
So Cut the Crap doesn't exist?
No, it's obviously no.6. I was just sorta trying to be funny but missed the mark (not for the first time).
Fair enough.
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Heston wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 6:08pm

I love the chorus to Cheapskates but the verses are a bit boring. An unusual lack of melody and a lumbering arrangement. The lyrics are clever but ultimately ring hollow. But yeah, fucking amazing album.
I remember reading how Cheapskates was the worst song on a maligned album and finally hearing it and thinking, "that's a catchy ass chorus." Yeah, the rest of it suffers from the same issues as the non-ECW/TG/SEH tracks on SEH, but the chorus is a pretty strong.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
30 Sep 2020, 9:43am
Heston wrote:
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I love the chorus to Cheapskates but the verses are a bit boring. An unusual lack of melody and a lumbering arrangement. The lyrics are clever but ultimately ring hollow. But yeah, fucking amazing album.
I remember reading how Cheapskates was the worst song on a maligned album and finally hearing it and thinking, "that's a catchy ass chorus." Yeah, the rest of it suffers from the same issues as the non-ECW/TG/SEH tracks on SEH, but the chorus is a pretty strong.
"Cheapskates" Should've been the B-side to "English Civil War" and "Pressure Drop" should've been on the album. The album would've sounded great in my opinion if Mick had mixed it all during the Marquee sessions. Those tracks have a much more organic feel.
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Marky Dread wrote:
30 Sep 2020, 11:52am
matedog wrote:
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Heston wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 6:08pm

I love the chorus to Cheapskates but the verses are a bit boring. An unusual lack of melody and a lumbering arrangement. The lyrics are clever but ultimately ring hollow. But yeah, fucking amazing album.
I remember reading how Cheapskates was the worst song on a maligned album and finally hearing it and thinking, "that's a catchy ass chorus." Yeah, the rest of it suffers from the same issues as the non-ECW/TG/SEH tracks on SEH, but the chorus is a pretty strong.
"Cheapskates" Should've been the B-side to "English Civil War" and "Pressure Drop" should've been on the album. The album would've sounded great in my opinion if Mick had mixed it all during the Marquee sessions. Those tracks have a much more organic feel.
Def agree.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Today my phone tried to autocorrect "Vince" to "binge."
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Today my phone tried to autocorrect "Vince" to "binge."
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"First Night Back in London" is underrated.
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Marky Dread wrote:
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"First Night Back in London" is underrated.
Not by me.
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Marky Dread wrote:
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"First Night Back in London" is underrated.
Sorry, the worst of the three CR singles for me. Never had any fondness for it at all.
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Heston wrote:
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Today my phone tried to autocorrect "Vince" to "binge."
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Marky Dread wrote:
14 Oct 2020, 4:13pm
"First Night Back in London" is underrated.
I've just put it on and I heartedly disagree. It's dull as dishwater. If we're talking underrated, for me it's Radio One and Midnight To Stevens.

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Heston wrote:
14 Oct 2020, 4:25pm
Marky Dread wrote:
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"First Night Back in London" is underrated.
Sorry, the worst of the three CR singles for me. Never had any fondness for it at all.
I dont care much for it's narrative but musically I really like it. Same with "Cool Confusion".
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