So much of Pepper is compromised(?) by the hype, especially post-dissolution of the group. A limp concept that doesn't go anywhere and the Wenners of the world telling us to genuflect before what is really just another good Beatles record, and one that isn't as much a step into the weird as Revolver or the faux album, MMT, that follows. I remember when I bought my copy—an actual 1960s copy at a used shop; at the time that somehow seemed more significant—I felt a bit dumb and undeserving that I didn't get why this was the greatest album ever made. I was wowed when I read Devin McKinney's assessment. It's not a leap forward to anything, but rather the band in full retreat—not performing live anymore, pretending to be someone else, and working harder to impress established critics rather than the kids. Its most interesting element is arguably the album sleeve, which elevated album covers to pop art status—stuff to really consider.
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Now you're talking! Anything more than Paul and strings and it's not really the Beatles.Marky Dread wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 3:02pmThe only Beatles album worth it's salt is this one released on Medulla Records.
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Exactly...now you're forward thinking. Who needs those other douchebags anyway.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 3:09pmNow you're talking! Anything more than Paul and strings and it's not really the Beatles.Marky Dread wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 3:02pmThe only Beatles album worth it's salt is this one released on Medulla Records.
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Agreed. I think if it wasn't for A Day In the Life it wouldn't have half the kudos it has. Take that and the Pepper reprise away and there's not much there to really thrill.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 3:07pmSo much of Pepper is compromised(?) by the hype, especially post-dissolution of the group. A limp concept that doesn't go anywhere and the Wenners of the world telling us to genuflect before what is really just another good Beatles record, and one that isn't as much a step into the weird as Revolver or the faux album, MMT, that follows. I remember when I bought my copy—an actual 1960s copy at a used shop; at the time that somehow seemed more significant—I felt a bit dumb and undeserving that I didn't get why this was the greatest album ever made. I was wowed when I read Devin McKinney's assessment. It's not a leap forward to anything, but rather the band in full retreat—not performing live anymore, pretending to be someone else, and working harder to impress established critics rather than the kids. Its most interesting element is arguably the album sleeve, which elevated album covers to pop art status—stuff to really consider.
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ADitL, LSD, and WLHFMF are the only ones that merit some kind of inner circle status. There's a shocking amount of filler (good filler, certainly) for an album of that stature.Heston wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 3:11pmAgreed. I think if it wasn't for A Day In the Life it wouldn't have half the kudos it has. Take that and the Pepper reprise away and there's not much there to really thrill.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 3:07pmSo much of Pepper is compromised(?) by the hype, especially post-dissolution of the group. A limp concept that doesn't go anywhere and the Wenners of the world telling us to genuflect before what is really just another good Beatles record, and one that isn't as much a step into the weird as Revolver or the faux album, MMT, that follows. I remember when I bought my copy—an actual 1960s copy at a used shop; at the time that somehow seemed more significant—I felt a bit dumb and undeserving that I didn't get why this was the greatest album ever made. I was wowed when I read Devin McKinney's assessment. It's not a leap forward to anything, but rather the band in full retreat—not performing live anymore, pretending to be someone else, and working harder to impress established critics rather than the kids. Its most interesting element is arguably the album sleeve, which elevated album covers to pop art status—stuff to really consider.
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I don't care for WALHFMF at all. I think all the cover versions have spoiled it for me.
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Yes. It’s the EP plus the singles of the era.
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So a bit unfair to use in rankings etc?
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Fairly easy first 2 rounds, Within easily the first to get the boot followed by 64 though I do agree with Heston, the backing vocals at that particular point are great.
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Technically "Within You, Without You" should be Hestons favourite on the album.
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Kind of surprised how hated WYWY is here given the general appreciation for something like Sandinista!. I like George's songs, but I also have a natural attraction to Indian music.
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Wikipedia says "When I'm Sixty-Four" was one of the first songs Paul ever wrote—when he was 16. Think about that. You're 16 years old, an aspiring rock n roll musician, and you write a song about being a senior citizen. Good lord but that man is fucking weird.
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It is tuneless. I've heard it about 100 times and still couldn't hum it if you had a gun to my head.
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Not the Indian ones!Marky Dread wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 4:26pmTechnically "Within You, Without You" should be Hestons favourite on the album.
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Wasn't it to please his father? Like a "write a standard" type thing?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 4:52pmWikipedia says "When I'm Sixty-Four" was one of the first songs Paul ever wrote—when he was 16. Think about that. You're 16 years old, an aspiring rock n roll musician, and you write a song about being a senior citizen. Good lord but that man is fucking weird.
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