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Listening to some Johnny Marr solo albums right now. I'll never get tired of listening to him play guitar.
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WestwayKid wrote:
23 Mar 2021, 10:34am
Listening to some Johnny Marr solo albums right now. I'll never get tired of listening to him play guitar.
I didn't care for that 90s band he formed (The Heaters?), but the records he's put out the last few years have been fun reminders of what that guy can do. Makes it easier to forget about that other guy.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Mar 2021, 10:38am
WestwayKid wrote:
23 Mar 2021, 10:34am
Listening to some Johnny Marr solo albums right now. I'll never get tired of listening to him play guitar.
I didn't care for that 90s band he formed (The Heaters?), but the records he's put out the last few years have been fun reminders of what that guy can do. Makes it easier to forget about that other guy.
The Healers. I also didn't care that much for it, but yeah - his more recent LPs have been great. I saw him live in 2019 - maybe the last live show I saw before the pandemic. It was awesome. It's great that he's thriving as a solo performer.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Mar 2021, 7:33pm
Review of the movie: https://film.avclub.com/shoplifters-of- ... 1846539580
Predictable.
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Kory wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 1:17pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Mar 2021, 7:33pm
Review of the movie: https://film.avclub.com/shoplifters-of- ... 1846539580
Predictable.
The film or the review?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 2:32pm
Kory wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 1:17pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Mar 2021, 7:33pm
Review of the movie: https://film.avclub.com/shoplifters-of- ... 1846539580
Predictable.
The film or the review?
The film, you could see some of this coming from the trailer.
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Kory wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 2:41pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 2:32pm
Kory wrote:
26 Mar 2021, 1:17pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Mar 2021, 7:33pm
Review of the movie: https://film.avclub.com/shoplifters-of- ... 1846539580
Predictable.
The film or the review?
The film, you could see some of this coming from the trailer.
In no small part, what made the Smiths appealing doesn't especially jibe with the times. Obsessive fandom and why-not-me? navel gazing seems especially shallow today, where awareness of the real tragedies of others is elevated. What made the Smiths work was the times they could play off, and I'm skeptical that our current period is conducive to making that seem anything but seriously self-indulgent.
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I saw this last night. I wish I'd have seen it in a proper movie theatre with a real sound system but since I live in an area that elected Marjorie Taylor-Greene, the chances of anywhere showing it are about as likely as Toby Keith doing a PETA ad.

It's hard for me to criticize anything that is basically wall-to-wall Smiths music or footage of Morrissey/Marr being interviewed (mostly from the South Bank Show in '87) but some of the dialogue is so shoe-horned in to make a Smiths reference it's almost laughable. You can predict the lyric from the situation a mile off.

I think the phrase is: "for fans only"
Nice cameo from Jose Maldonado though :)
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oliver wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 10:14am
some of the dialogue is so shoe-horned in to make a Smiths reference it's almost laughable. You can predict the lyric from the situation a mile off.
As in?
"Hey, Jeremy."
"Why are you so sad, Polly?"
"My grandma died."
"She was old and she would have died anyway."
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oliver wrote:
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I live in an area that elected Marjorie Taylor-Greene
Really? Never had you down as a Southerner. In fact, in my head I hear you talking in a Manc accent.
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Olaf wrote:
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oliver wrote:
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I live in an area that elected Marjorie Taylor-Greene
Really? Never had you down as a Southerner. In fact, in my head I hear you talking in a Manc accent.
Expat - originally from London
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 10:27am
oliver wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 10:14am
some of the dialogue is so shoe-horned in to make a Smiths reference it's almost laughable. You can predict the lyric from the situation a mile off.
As in?
"Hey, Jeremy."
"Why are you so sad, Polly?"
"My grandma died."
"She was old and she would have died anyway."
That might very well be in the deleted scenes on the bluray.

Most disappointing part was Tom Lennon clearly only being available for one day of shooting so is only in one scene. He plays the obnoxious owner of the record store and the scene ends with his employee saying 'there were times when I could have murdered him'
Think of that x 90 minutes :)
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oliver wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 8:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 10:27am
oliver wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 10:14am
some of the dialogue is so shoe-horned in to make a Smiths reference it's almost laughable. You can predict the lyric from the situation a mile off.
As in?
"Hey, Jeremy."
"Why are you so sad, Polly?"
"My grandma died."
"She was old and she would have died anyway."
That might very well be in the deleted scenes on the bluray.

Most disappointing part was Tom Lennon clearly only being available for one day of shooting so is only in one scene. He plays the obnoxious owner of the record store and the scene ends with his employee saying 'there were times when I could have murdered him'
Think of that x 90 minutes :)
Oh lord. I know that I'll eventually watch this, but this is valuable foreknowledge. If I go in with a certain hate-watch perspective, I might enjoy it more.
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oliver wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 8:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 10:27am
oliver wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 10:14am
some of the dialogue is so shoe-horned in to make a Smiths reference it's almost laughable. You can predict the lyric from the situation a mile off.
As in?
"Hey, Jeremy."
"Why are you so sad, Polly?"
"My grandma died."
"She was old and she would have died anyway."
That might very well be in the deleted scenes on the bluray.

Most disappointing part was Tom Lennon clearly only being available for one day of shooting so is only in one scene. He plays the obnoxious owner of the record store and the scene ends with his employee saying 'there were times when I could have murdered him'
Think of that x 90 minutes :)
Ick.

The Smiths meant a lot to me when I was a kid. I probably couldn't write a movie that truly articulated what they meant to me, but I pray it would not be as ham fisted as this.
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