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Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:30am
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 10:27am
The top slot has to be The Holy Bible.

2nd for me is Everything Must Go. It knocked me over the first time I heard it - sounding so unlike THB, but it made sense - the band making a statement that they were still there.

Generation Terrorists. I love the songs, but production sounds a little dated these days and for the love of God... why didn't they let Sean drum on the LP? I really don't like the programmed drums.

This Is My Truth is an album that has grown on me. The first half is great, but for years I felt the 2nd half sagged. Not anymore. It's better than I gave it credit for and Be Natural has become one of my fave MSP tracks.

Gold Against the Soul. It's good and honestly on another day I might swap it out with GT. The band sounds more confident and JDB is in full guitar god mode.

I love the MSP discussion. They're a top-5 band for me. Let's rank the next 5 albums next ;)
Generation Terrorists was produced by Steve Brown who had done work with The Cult. I've always thought he was the wrong guy. The multi tracking way he recorded that record instrument by instrument was stupid they were a great live band. I know they were enamored with Guns 'n' Roses Appetite for Destruction and the early Public Enemy stuff and wanted a big rock sound with some other stuff to be produced by Chuck D who they never got and had to compromise. They should've recorded it as a full band and then overdubbed. This would've given the album a much more organic feel. James was a massive Bollocks and London Calling fan and it would've been immense if they could've got Bill Price.

Check out the footage of the band playing the Marquee just before the release of the album to see how good they were. The footage is included on the dvd with the deluxe edition I'm sure it's on YouTube. I'm in that footage right in front of the stage.

When the band were recording Gold Against the Soul in Checkendon just outside Oxford they (James & Sean) took a night off to come down to my home town of Reading to watch Radiohead at the After Dark club. I chatted with them in the crowd and they remembered me from when they played the same club promoting Generation Terrorists. Really cool guys.
They sound absolutely fantastic in that footage. Tons of energy... which doesn't come across on the album.
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Re: Rank the first five Manic Street Preachers records-90s Era

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WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 1:22pm
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:30am
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 10:27am
The top slot has to be The Holy Bible.

2nd for me is Everything Must Go. It knocked me over the first time I heard it - sounding so unlike THB, but it made sense - the band making a statement that they were still there.

Generation Terrorists. I love the songs, but production sounds a little dated these days and for the love of God... why didn't they let Sean drum on the LP? I really don't like the programmed drums.

This Is My Truth is an album that has grown on me. The first half is great, but for years I felt the 2nd half sagged. Not anymore. It's better than I gave it credit for and Be Natural has become one of my fave MSP tracks.

Gold Against the Soul. It's good and honestly on another day I might swap it out with GT. The band sounds more confident and JDB is in full guitar god mode.

I love the MSP discussion. They're a top-5 band for me. Let's rank the next 5 albums next ;)
Generation Terrorists was produced by Steve Brown who had done work with The Cult. I've always thought he was the wrong guy. The multi tracking way he recorded that record instrument by instrument was stupid they were a great live band. I know they were enamored with Guns 'n' Roses Appetite for Destruction and the early Public Enemy stuff and wanted a big rock sound with some other stuff to be produced by Chuck D who they never got and had to compromise. They should've recorded it as a full band and then overdubbed. This would've given the album a much more organic feel. James was a massive Bollocks and London Calling fan and it would've been immense if they could've got Bill Price.

Check out the footage of the band playing the Marquee just before the release of the album to see how good they were. The footage is included on the dvd with the deluxe edition I'm sure it's on YouTube. I'm in that footage right in front of the stage.

When the band were recording Gold Against the Soul in Checkendon just outside Oxford they (James & Sean) took a night off to come down to my home town of Reading to watch Radiohead at the After Dark club. I chatted with them in the crowd and they remembered me from when they played the same club promoting Generation Terrorists. Really cool guys.
They sound absolutely fantastic in that footage. Tons of energy... which doesn't come across on the album.
That's exactly what is missing from the album. It's simply way too produced.
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Re: Rank the first five Manic Street Preachers records-90s Era

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RockNRollWhore wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:37am
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:30am
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 10:27am
The top slot has to be The Holy Bible.

2nd for me is Everything Must Go. It knocked me over the first time I heard it - sounding so unlike THB, but it made sense - the band making a statement that they were still there.

Generation Terrorists. I love the songs, but production sounds a little dated these days and for the love of God... why didn't they let Sean drum on the LP? I really don't like the programmed drums.

This Is My Truth is an album that has grown on me. The first half is great, but for years I felt the 2nd half sagged. Not anymore. It's better than I gave it credit for and Be Natural has become one of my fave MSP tracks.

Gold Against the Soul. It's good and honestly on another day I might swap it out with GT. The band sounds more confident and JDB is in full guitar god mode.

I love the MSP discussion. They're a top-5 band for me. Let's rank the next 5 albums next ;)
Generation Terrorists was produced by Steve Brown who had done work with The Cult. I've always thought he was the wrong guy. The multi tracking way he recorded that record instrument by instrument was stupid they were a great live band. I know they were enamored with Guns 'n' Roses Appetite for Destruction and the early Public Enemy stuff and wanted a big rock sound with some other stuff to be produced by Chuck D who they never got and had to compromise. They should've recorded it as a full band and then overdubbed. This would've given the album a much more organic feel. James was a massive Bollocks and London Calling fan and it would've been immense if they could've got Bill Price.

Check out the footage of the band playing the Marquee just before the release of the album to see how good they were. The footage is included on the dvd with the deluxe edition I'm sure it's on YouTube. I'm in that footage right in front of the stage.

When the band were recording Gold Against the Soul in Checkendon just outside Oxford they (James & Sean) took a night off to come down to my home town of Reading to watch Radiohead at the After Dark club. I chatted with them in the crowd and they remembered me from when they played the same club promoting Generation Terrorists. Really cool guys.
I actually adore how over the top that record sounds,
Drum machine included. The funniest part of the whole thing was they spent something like 1.5 million making the thing, and a large sum of that went towards getting ex Pornstar Traci Lords to sing on the record and gambling on slot machines. Re the multitracking; I’m pretty sure the only member who actually plays on that record is JDB, even the bass parts are him. Damn dog and crucifix kiss might be live band takes but I can’t tell for certain.
No that's incorrect James does not play everythjng on the record.

Here's what Dave Eringa had to say when asked.

Is it true that only James and Sean actually recorded material that was used on the record? Not at all - Nicky played all the bass. Richey was much more of a lyricist than a guitar player and James is such an astounding musician I guess there seemed no point in Richey playing.

"Two years later I insisted that Richey play one part on Gold Against The Soul, so he did the power chords behind the chorus of La Tristesse Durera and as far as I know I was the only guy to ever get to record him. I'm proud of that.
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Re: Rank the first five Manic Street Preachers records-90s Era

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Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 1:43pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:37am
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:30am
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 10:27am
The top slot has to be The Holy Bible.

2nd for me is Everything Must Go. It knocked me over the first time I heard it - sounding so unlike THB, but it made sense - the band making a statement that they were still there.

Generation Terrorists. I love the songs, but production sounds a little dated these days and for the love of God... why didn't they let Sean drum on the LP? I really don't like the programmed drums.

This Is My Truth is an album that has grown on me. The first half is great, but for years I felt the 2nd half sagged. Not anymore. It's better than I gave it credit for and Be Natural has become one of my fave MSP tracks.

Gold Against the Soul. It's good and honestly on another day I might swap it out with GT. The band sounds more confident and JDB is in full guitar god mode.

I love the MSP discussion. They're a top-5 band for me. Let's rank the next 5 albums next ;)
Generation Terrorists was produced by Steve Brown who had done work with The Cult. I've always thought he was the wrong guy. The multi tracking way he recorded that record instrument by instrument was stupid they were a great live band. I know they were enamored with Guns 'n' Roses Appetite for Destruction and the early Public Enemy stuff and wanted a big rock sound with some other stuff to be produced by Chuck D who they never got and had to compromise. They should've recorded it as a full band and then overdubbed. This would've given the album a much more organic feel. James was a massive Bollocks and London Calling fan and it would've been immense if they could've got Bill Price.

Check out the footage of the band playing the Marquee just before the release of the album to see how good they were. The footage is included on the dvd with the deluxe edition I'm sure it's on YouTube. I'm in that footage right in front of the stage.

When the band were recording Gold Against the Soul in Checkendon just outside Oxford they (James & Sean) took a night off to come down to my home town of Reading to watch Radiohead at the After Dark club. I chatted with them in the crowd and they remembered me from when they played the same club promoting Generation Terrorists. Really cool guys.
I actually adore how over the top that record sounds,
Drum machine included. The funniest part of the whole thing was they spent something like 1.5 million making the thing, and a large sum of that went towards getting ex Pornstar Traci Lords to sing on the record and gambling on slot machines. Re the multitracking; I’m pretty sure the only member who actually plays on that record is JDB, even the bass parts are him. Damn dog and crucifix kiss might be live band takes but I can’t tell for certain.
No that's incorrect James does not play everythjng on the record.

Here's what Dave Eringa had to say when asked.

Is it true that only James and Sean actually recorded material that was used on the record? Not at all - Nicky played all the bass. Richey was much more of a lyricist than a guitar player and James is such an astounding musician I guess there seemed no point in Richey playing.

"Two years later I insisted that Richey play one part on Gold Against The Soul, so he did the power chords behind the chorus of La Tristesse Durera and as far as I know I was the only guy to ever get to record him. I'm proud of that.
I did not know that, but very cool. I think I like it a little bit more knowing Nicky played on it.
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Re: Rank the first five Manic Street Preachers records-90s Era

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WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 1:43pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:37am
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:30am
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 10:27am
The top slot has to be The Holy Bible.

2nd for me is Everything Must Go. It knocked me over the first time I heard it - sounding so unlike THB, but it made sense - the band making a statement that they were still there.

Generation Terrorists. I love the songs, but production sounds a little dated these days and for the love of God... why didn't they let Sean drum on the LP? I really don't like the programmed drums.

This Is My Truth is an album that has grown on me. The first half is great, but for years I felt the 2nd half sagged. Not anymore. It's better than I gave it credit for and Be Natural has become one of my fave MSP tracks.

Gold Against the Soul. It's good and honestly on another day I might swap it out with GT. The band sounds more confident and JDB is in full guitar god mode.

I love the MSP discussion. They're a top-5 band for me. Let's rank the next 5 albums next ;)
Generation Terrorists was produced by Steve Brown who had done work with The Cult. I've always thought he was the wrong guy. The multi tracking way he recorded that record instrument by instrument was stupid they were a great live band. I know they were enamored with Guns 'n' Roses Appetite for Destruction and the early Public Enemy stuff and wanted a big rock sound with some other stuff to be produced by Chuck D who they never got and had to compromise. They should've recorded it as a full band and then overdubbed. This would've given the album a much more organic feel. James was a massive Bollocks and London Calling fan and it would've been immense if they could've got Bill Price.

Check out the footage of the band playing the Marquee just before the release of the album to see how good they were. The footage is included on the dvd with the deluxe edition I'm sure it's on YouTube. I'm in that footage right in front of the stage.

When the band were recording Gold Against the Soul in Checkendon just outside Oxford they (James & Sean) took a night off to come down to my home town of Reading to watch Radiohead at the After Dark club. I chatted with them in the crowd and they remembered me from when they played the same club promoting Generation Terrorists. Really cool guys.
I actually adore how over the top that record sounds,
Drum machine included. The funniest part of the whole thing was they spent something like 1.5 million making the thing, and a large sum of that went towards getting ex Pornstar Traci Lords to sing on the record and gambling on slot machines. Re the multitracking; I’m pretty sure the only member who actually plays on that record is JDB, even the bass parts are him. Damn dog and crucifix kiss might be live band takes but I can’t tell for certain.
No that's incorrect James does not play everythjng on the record.

Here's what Dave Eringa had to say when asked.

Is it true that only James and Sean actually recorded material that was used on the record? Not at all - Nicky played all the bass. Richey was much more of a lyricist than a guitar player and James is such an astounding musician I guess there seemed no point in Richey playing.

"Two years later I insisted that Richey play one part on Gold Against The Soul, so he did the power chords behind the chorus of La Tristesse Durera and as far as I know I was the only guy to ever get to record him. I'm proud of that.
I did not know that, but very cool. I think I like it a little bit more knowing Nicky played on it.
Watching Nicky live back then it would've been silly for him not to play on the record. So all the original band members are on the record. As Richey wasn't a band member when they released Suicide Alley/Tennessee I Get Low.

When I saw them at the After Dark, Reading promoting GT Richey was getting a shit-ton of abuse from the very hostile crowd but he just smiled and blew kisses back. They were brilliant of course. They had their small tour vehicle parked outside and my friend Paul and I went and chatted with them. They put us on the guest list for their next London show.
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Re: Rank the first five Manic Street Preachers records-90s Era

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Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:33pm
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 1:43pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:37am
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:30am


Generation Terrorists was produced by Steve Brown who had done work with The Cult. I've always thought he was the wrong guy. The multi tracking way he recorded that record instrument by instrument was stupid they were a great live band. I know they were enamored with Guns 'n' Roses Appetite for Destruction and the early Public Enemy stuff and wanted a big rock sound with some other stuff to be produced by Chuck D who they never got and had to compromise. They should've recorded it as a full band and then overdubbed. This would've given the album a much more organic feel. James was a massive Bollocks and London Calling fan and it would've been immense if they could've got Bill Price.

Check out the footage of the band playing the Marquee just before the release of the album to see how good they were. The footage is included on the dvd with the deluxe edition I'm sure it's on YouTube. I'm in that footage right in front of the stage.

When the band were recording Gold Against the Soul in Checkendon just outside Oxford they (James & Sean) took a night off to come down to my home town of Reading to watch Radiohead at the After Dark club. I chatted with them in the crowd and they remembered me from when they played the same club promoting Generation Terrorists. Really cool guys.
I actually adore how over the top that record sounds,
Drum machine included. The funniest part of the whole thing was they spent something like 1.5 million making the thing, and a large sum of that went towards getting ex Pornstar Traci Lords to sing on the record and gambling on slot machines. Re the multitracking; I’m pretty sure the only member who actually plays on that record is JDB, even the bass parts are him. Damn dog and crucifix kiss might be live band takes but I can’t tell for certain.
No that's incorrect James does not play everythjng on the record.

Here's what Dave Eringa had to say when asked.

Is it true that only James and Sean actually recorded material that was used on the record? Not at all - Nicky played all the bass. Richey was much more of a lyricist than a guitar player and James is such an astounding musician I guess there seemed no point in Richey playing.

"Two years later I insisted that Richey play one part on Gold Against The Soul, so he did the power chords behind the chorus of La Tristesse Durera and as far as I know I was the only guy to ever get to record him. I'm proud of that.
I did not know that, but very cool. I think I like it a little bit more knowing Nicky played on it.
Watching Nicky live back then it would've been silly for him not to play on the record. So all the original band members are on the record. As Richey wasn't a band member when they released Suicide Alley/Tennessee I Get Low.

When I saw them at the After Dark, Reading promoting GT Richey was getting a shit-ton of abuse from the very hostile crowd but he just smiled and blew kisses back. They were brilliant of course. They had their small tour vehicle parked outside and my friend Paul and I went and chatted with them. They put us on the guest list for their next London show.
I briefly chatted with James and Nicky after a show in Minneapolis back in I want to say 2009. Really down to Earth guys.
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Re: Rank the first five Manic Street Preachers records-90s Era

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WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:48pm
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:33pm
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 1:43pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:37am


I actually adore how over the top that record sounds,
Drum machine included. The funniest part of the whole thing was they spent something like 1.5 million making the thing, and a large sum of that went towards getting ex Pornstar Traci Lords to sing on the record and gambling on slot machines. Re the multitracking; I’m pretty sure the only member who actually plays on that record is JDB, even the bass parts are him. Damn dog and crucifix kiss might be live band takes but I can’t tell for certain.
No that's incorrect James does not play everythjng on the record.

Here's what Dave Eringa had to say when asked.

Is it true that only James and Sean actually recorded material that was used on the record? Not at all - Nicky played all the bass. Richey was much more of a lyricist than a guitar player and James is such an astounding musician I guess there seemed no point in Richey playing.

"Two years later I insisted that Richey play one part on Gold Against The Soul, so he did the power chords behind the chorus of La Tristesse Durera and as far as I know I was the only guy to ever get to record him. I'm proud of that.
I did not know that, but very cool. I think I like it a little bit more knowing Nicky played on it.
Watching Nicky live back then it would've been silly for him not to play on the record. So all the original band members are on the record. As Richey wasn't a band member when they released Suicide Alley/Tennessee I Get Low.

When I saw them at the After Dark, Reading promoting GT Richey was getting a shit-ton of abuse from the very hostile crowd but he just smiled and blew kisses back. They were brilliant of course. They had their small tour vehicle parked outside and my friend Paul and I went and chatted with them. They put us on the guest list for their next London show.
I briefly chatted with James and Nicky after a show in Minneapolis back in I want to say 2009. Really down to Earth guys.
Same. James praised eumaas’s fashion sense.
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Wolter wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 3:03pm
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:48pm
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:33pm
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 1:43pm


No that's incorrect James does not play everythjng on the record.

Here's what Dave Eringa had to say when asked.

Is it true that only James and Sean actually recorded material that was used on the record? Not at all - Nicky played all the bass. Richey was much more of a lyricist than a guitar player and James is such an astounding musician I guess there seemed no point in Richey playing.

"Two years later I insisted that Richey play one part on Gold Against The Soul, so he did the power chords behind the chorus of La Tristesse Durera and as far as I know I was the only guy to ever get to record him. I'm proud of that.
I did not know that, but very cool. I think I like it a little bit more knowing Nicky played on it.
Watching Nicky live back then it would've been silly for him not to play on the record. So all the original band members are on the record. As Richey wasn't a band member when they released Suicide Alley/Tennessee I Get Low.

When I saw them at the After Dark, Reading promoting GT Richey was getting a shit-ton of abuse from the very hostile crowd but he just smiled and blew kisses back. They were brilliant of course. They had their small tour vehicle parked outside and my friend Paul and I went and chatted with them. They put us on the guest list for their next London show.
I briefly chatted with James and Nicky after a show in Minneapolis back in I want to say 2009. Really down to Earth guys.
Same. James praised eumaas’s fashion sense.
Did they tell him "everything must go". ;)

They are great guys.
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Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 3:23pm
Wolter wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 3:03pm
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:48pm
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:33pm
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:11pm


I did not know that, but very cool. I think I like it a little bit more knowing Nicky played on it.
Watching Nicky live back then it would've been silly for him not to play on the record. So all the original band members are on the record. As Richey wasn't a band member when they released Suicide Alley/Tennessee I Get Low.

When I saw them at the After Dark, Reading promoting GT Richey was getting a shit-ton of abuse from the very hostile crowd but he just smiled and blew kisses back. They were brilliant of course. They had their small tour vehicle parked outside and my friend Paul and I went and chatted with them. They put us on the guest list for their next London show.
I briefly chatted with James and Nicky after a show in Minneapolis back in I want to say 2009. Really down to Earth guys.
Same. James praised eumaas’s fashion sense.
Did they tell him "everything must go". ;)

They are great guys.
It’s really funny how short everyone but Nicky is. He’s only a little taller than I am, but next to them he looks like he’s like 6’8”.
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Wolter wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 3:32pm
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 3:23pm
Wolter wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 3:03pm
WestwayKid wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:48pm
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 2:33pm


Watching Nicky live back then it would've been silly for him not to play on the record. So all the original band members are on the record. As Richey wasn't a band member when they released Suicide Alley/Tennessee I Get Low.

When I saw them at the After Dark, Reading promoting GT Richey was getting a shit-ton of abuse from the very hostile crowd but he just smiled and blew kisses back. They were brilliant of course. They had their small tour vehicle parked outside and my friend Paul and I went and chatted with them. They put us on the guest list for their next London show.
I briefly chatted with James and Nicky after a show in Minneapolis back in I want to say 2009. Really down to Earth guys.
Same. James praised eumaas’s fashion sense.
Did they tell him "everything must go". ;)

They are great guys.
It’s really funny how short everyone but Nicky is. He’s only a little taller than I am, but next to them he looks like he’s like 6’8”.
Yeah I'm 6ft and I thought the same except Nick of course who is over 6ft.
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Yeah Sean Moore is like 5 4” I believe. James might be around 5 6”.

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RockNRollWhore wrote:
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Yeah Sean Moore is like 5 4” I believe. James might be around 5 6”.

You’re overestimating both. James is absolutely shorter than that. My wife is 5’2” and he was *barely* taller.
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Wolter wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 8:00pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 5:15pm
Yeah Sean Moore is like 5 4” I believe. James might be around 5 6”.

You’re overestimating both. James is absolutely shorter than that. My wife is 5’2” and he was *barely* taller.
Maybe he wears insoles. When I saw them in 2015 he looked to be around that height. He has a really stocky build though which may add to that perception. If you watch old footage of the band he looks fucking yoked, washboard abs and all.


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Re: Rank the first five Manic Street Preachers records-90s Era

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So I’ve taken the liberty of making a double album out of Gold Against the Soul. I honestly feel the album works way better this way, and comes across as a gargantuan rock beast I.e Generation Terrorists.
The tracklist would be as follows:

1. Sleepflower
2. From Despair to Where
3. La Trisstesse Durea
4. Hibernation (B Side)
5. Are Mothers Saints (B Side)
6. Yourself
7. Comfort Comes (B Side)
8. Us Against You (B Side)
9. Life Becoming A Landslide
10. Drug Drug Druggy
11. Donkeys (B Side)
12. Roses in the Hospital
13. Patrick Bateman (B Side)
14. Charles Windsor (B Side)
15. Removables
16. Nostalgic Pushead
17. Symphony of a Tourette
18. Gold Against the Soul

Removables was originally written during the GATS sessions although not released until EMG, that’s why included it. The Charles Windsor cover would fit in the same way as Damn Dog on the first album. Honestly, with this track listing, I think you have a pretty strong contender for the greatest Manics record. Throw this together in your iTunes/Spotify and let me know what you think.

PS: I’m going to change the name of this into a general MSP discussion thread
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