Oh yeah, Hitsville and Look Here have to be NWR. Especially with how stylistically different Look Here is from anything else Paul was familiar with.Kory wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 2:56pmI think it's highly likely NWR is on Hitsville, Look Here, and One More Time. I might be convinced on SAE, but I have a pet theory that Mick just played bass on all the songs he had vocals on, to save studio time if nothing else.matedog wrote: ↑22 Mar 2021, 6:25pmJust reread Passion is a Fashion excerpt I cited and it corroborates "half a dozen tracks" in the April Electric Lady sessions:Heston wrote: ↑22 Mar 2021, 6:16pmSomething is nagging in the back of my mind that I've read he plays on Something About England as well. Where I've read this - again - I'm not sure. First edition of LGiT?
The Call Up
The Magnificent Seven
Lightning Strikes
Every Little Bit Hurts
Lose This Skin
Stop the World
The assumption is they didn't play the Wessex sessions later that summer.
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Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: The Clash Studio Logs/Sessionography
The closest he got to it was Jimmy Jazz, but they're both cod walking lines.matedog wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 3:57pmOh yeah, Hitsville and Look Here have to be NWR. Especially with how stylistically different Look Here is from anything else Paul was familiar with.Kory wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 2:56pmI think it's highly likely NWR is on Hitsville, Look Here, and One More Time. I might be convinced on SAE, but I have a pet theory that Mick just played bass on all the songs he had vocals on, to save studio time if nothing else.matedog wrote: ↑22 Mar 2021, 6:25pmJust reread Passion is a Fashion excerpt I cited and it corroborates "half a dozen tracks" in the April Electric Lady sessions:
The Call Up
The Magnificent Seven
Lightning Strikes
Every Little Bit Hurts
Lose This Skin
Stop the World
The assumption is they didn't play the Wessex sessions later that summer.
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"cod"?
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: The Clash Studio Logs/Sessionography
Hey Pat replied! Not terribly helpful though:
Aah... Who plays what on Sandinista may never be settled!
Remember the MOJO piece from last year? The guy 'J.P. Nicholson' was fairly sure he played on The Call Up and others... I kinda downplayed his role because I didn't want to throw Norman's exact contributions into any more confusion.
The problem is that you only need to play four bars of anything in tune and in time and it can looped and copied. I think there's a hell of a lot of editing and studio craft on Clash records. Bill Price was a genius at that kind of thing.
Charlie Don't Surf could be Norman, or J.P., or even Mick, who played bass on stuff before Norman arrived - maybe a combination of all three. Maybe Paul overdubbed it when he came back from Canada, though if you've already got a good take in the bag you probably wouldn't mess with it. Paul would have done all the reggae stuff and more, definitely.
That probably doesn't help, but without access to the original master tapes (which are apparently damaged anyway), it's hard to tell...
Also, there's was an awful lot of weed on that session, making things even more obscure.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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So the weed played bass on Sandinista!matedog wrote: ↑01 Apr 2021, 9:23amHey Pat replied! Not terribly helpful though:Aah... Who plays what on Sandinista may never be settled!
Remember the MOJO piece from last year? The guy 'J.P. Nicholson' was fairly sure he played on The Call Up and others... I kinda downplayed his role because I didn't want to throw Norman's exact contributions into any more confusion.
The problem is that you only need to play four bars of anything in tune and in time and it can looped and copied. I think there's a hell of a lot of editing and studio craft on Clash records. Bill Price was a genius at that kind of thing.
Charlie Don't Surf could be Norman, or J.P., or even Mick, who played bass on stuff before Norman arrived - maybe a combination of all three. Maybe Paul overdubbed it when he came back from Canada, though if you've already got a good take in the bag you probably wouldn't mess with it. Paul would have done all the reggae stuff and more, definitely.
That probably doesn't help, but without access to the original master tapes (which are apparently damaged anyway), it's hard to tell...
Also, there's was an awful lot of weed on that session, making things even more obscure.
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Re: The Clash Studio Logs/Sessionography
Hello,Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Apr 2021, 10:54amSo the weed played bass on Sandinista!matedog wrote: ↑01 Apr 2021, 9:23amHey Pat replied! Not terribly helpful though:Aah... Who plays what on Sandinista may never be settled!
Remember the MOJO piece from last year? The guy 'J.P. Nicholson' was fairly sure he played on The Call Up and others... I kinda downplayed his role because I didn't want to throw Norman's exact contributions into any more confusion.
The problem is that you only need to play four bars of anything in tune and in time and it can looped and copied. I think there's a hell of a lot of editing and studio craft on Clash records. Bill Price was a genius at that kind of thing.
Charlie Don't Surf could be Norman, or J.P., or even Mick, who played bass on stuff before Norman arrived - maybe a combination of all three. Maybe Paul overdubbed it when he came back from Canada, though if you've already got a good take in the bag you probably wouldn't mess with it. Paul would have done all the reggae stuff and more, definitely.
That probably doesn't help, but without access to the original master tapes (which are apparently damaged anyway), it's hard to tell...
Also, there's was an awful lot of weed on that session, making things even more obscure.
I know Weed played a large role in a lot of Grateful Dead recordings. That guy got around.
Re: The Clash Studio Logs/Sessionography
Thanks for reaching out on that, this is interesting to read even though it doesn't provide any actual info. Who is this JP Nicholson guy?matedog wrote: ↑01 Apr 2021, 9:23amHey Pat replied! Not terribly helpful though:Aah... Who plays what on Sandinista may never be settled!
Remember the MOJO piece from last year? The guy 'J.P. Nicholson' was fairly sure he played on The Call Up and others... I kinda downplayed his role because I didn't want to throw Norman's exact contributions into any more confusion.
The problem is that you only need to play four bars of anything in tune and in time and it can looped and copied. I think there's a hell of a lot of editing and studio craft on Clash records. Bill Price was a genius at that kind of thing.
Charlie Don't Surf could be Norman, or J.P., or even Mick, who played bass on stuff before Norman arrived - maybe a combination of all three. Maybe Paul overdubbed it when he came back from Canada, though if you've already got a good take in the bag you probably wouldn't mess with it. Paul would have done all the reggae stuff and more, definitely.
That probably doesn't help, but without access to the original master tapes (which are apparently damaged anyway), it's hard to tell...
Also, there's was an awful lot of weed on that session, making things even more obscure.
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Studio engineer on Sandinista! Also known as J P. Nichols.Kory wrote: ↑02 Apr 2021, 8:30pmThanks for reaching out on that, this is interesting to read even though it doesn't provide any actual info. Who is this JP Nicholson guy?matedog wrote: ↑01 Apr 2021, 9:23amHey Pat replied! Not terribly helpful though:Aah... Who plays what on Sandinista may never be settled!
Remember the MOJO piece from last year? The guy 'J.P. Nicholson' was fairly sure he played on The Call Up and others... I kinda downplayed his role because I didn't want to throw Norman's exact contributions into any more confusion.
The problem is that you only need to play four bars of anything in tune and in time and it can looped and copied. I think there's a hell of a lot of editing and studio craft on Clash records. Bill Price was a genius at that kind of thing.
Charlie Don't Surf could be Norman, or J.P., or even Mick, who played bass on stuff before Norman arrived - maybe a combination of all three. Maybe Paul overdubbed it when he came back from Canada, though if you've already got a good take in the bag you probably wouldn't mess with it. Paul would have done all the reggae stuff and more, definitely.
That probably doesn't help, but without access to the original master tapes (which are apparently damaged anyway), it's hard to tell...
Also, there's was an awful lot of weed on that session, making things even more obscure.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
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Just noticed this on the COB wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_on_Broadway) for Midnight to Stevens:
"recorded at People's Hall, Frestonia, London in 1981"
That doesn't match up with any of the locations on the sessionography. Anyone have a COB booklet handy to see if there is more information on this? I'm showing there was the Marcus Music sessions in April 81 and Ear Studios in September 81 (I believe both are London) before the Electric lady/NYC sessions.
"recorded at People's Hall, Frestonia, London in 1981"
That doesn't match up with any of the locations on the sessionography. Anyone have a COB booklet handy to see if there is more information on this? I'm showing there was the Marcus Music sessions in April 81 and Ear Studios in September 81 (I believe both are London) before the Electric lady/NYC sessions.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Ear studios was part of the People's Hall.matedog wrote: ↑14 Apr 2021, 9:53amJust noticed this on the COB wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_on_Broadway) for Midnight to Stevens:
"recorded at People's Hall, Frestonia, London in 1981"
That doesn't match up with any of the locations on the sessionography. Anyone have a COB booklet handy to see if there is more information on this? I'm showing there was the Marcus Music sessions in April 81 and Ear Studios in September 81 (I believe both are London) before the Electric lady/NYC sessions.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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As Heston says above.
Here are some addresses and info that might help.
Marcus Music, Kensington Gardens Square, London.
Ear Studios, The People's Hall, Frestonia, London.
Glyn Johns Garden Studio, Warnford, Hampshire.
Here are some addresses and info that might help.
Marcus Music, Kensington Gardens Square, London.
Ear Studios, The People's Hall, Frestonia, London.
Glyn Johns Garden Studio, Warnford, Hampshire.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
Re: The Clash Studio Logs/Sessionography
Thanks guys. I'll assume M2S was from the Ear Studios sessions and revise accordingly.Marky Dread wrote: ↑14 Apr 2021, 10:22amAs Heston says above.
Here are some addresses and info that might help.
Marcus Music, Kensington Gardens Square, London.
Ear Studios, The People's Hall, Frestonia, London.
Glyn Johns Garden Studio, Warnford, Hampshire.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Silly question but you are aware of this site?matedog wrote: ↑14 Apr 2021, 10:36amThanks guys. I'll assume M2S was from the Ear Studios sessions and revise accordingly.Marky Dread wrote: ↑14 Apr 2021, 10:22amAs Heston says above.
Here are some addresses and info that might help.
Marcus Music, Kensington Gardens Square, London.
Ear Studios, The People's Hall, Frestonia, London.
Glyn Johns Garden Studio, Warnford, Hampshire.
https://clash.fandom.com/wiki/Midnight_To_Stevens
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
Re: The Clash Studio Logs/Sessionography
I contributed to that site a loooooong time ago, so I was aware, but totally forgot about it. Looks pretty thorough too. Those dates are great too.Marky Dread wrote: ↑14 Apr 2021, 11:13amSilly question but you are aware of this site?matedog wrote: ↑14 Apr 2021, 10:36amThanks guys. I'll assume M2S was from the Ear Studios sessions and revise accordingly.Marky Dread wrote: ↑14 Apr 2021, 10:22amAs Heston says above.
Here are some addresses and info that might help.
Marcus Music, Kensington Gardens Square, London.
Ear Studios, The People's Hall, Frestonia, London.
Glyn Johns Garden Studio, Warnford, Hampshire.
https://clash.fandom.com/wiki/Midnight_To_Stevens
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.