The KISS thread

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Re: The KISS thread

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Reason To live is fucking awful.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Wolter wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 11:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 6:34pm
matedog wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 6:07pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 5:56pm
matedog wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 5:48pm
Digging deeper into their fruitful 80s period:

I missed one shot in the beginning of the video and was so damn confused. Basically the chick decides to burn Paul's car, but then there are shots of her in a towel dancing in a mirror. Rewatched and figured out she's mad at Paul. Probably for the VD.
I read this paragraph to the Boss; she chortled.
Anyway, the song is okay for the standards of monster ballads of the day. Some interesting key changes between the minor key verse, major key chorus. There are better ones out there, but worse too. The fashion isn't too ridiculous compared to their other videos at the time.
I'm not sure I can think of a single metal ballad that I don't loathe. Just wretched, stinky cheese by form.
I'm the board Warrant apologist, so I have a remarkable acceptance of this style.
That's one fuck of a blind spot.
I want it known that while I’m an occasional metal apologist, metal ballads are godawful. I’m here for the headbanging, not some fucking thorny rose or silent lucidity.
Chuck Klosterman is generally an annoying writer, but his book Fargo Rock City is pretty dang good. And in it he says that in the 80s, he and his buddies would assess whether a band was really metal or not by asking whether girls liked them. So Def Lep and Poison and all those hair metal bands were out, but chuds like Maiden clearly were definitely in. The sexism embedded in their argument can be stripped away to get to the question of whether there's a wretched ballad lurking. The worst part of metal's success in the 80s was that it increased pressure for bands to have those hideous Poison kind of songs to get on MTV.
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Wolter wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 11:46pm
silent lucidity.
What's my little bro got to do with this?
Wave bye bye to the boss
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Yeah, metal ballads are bad, but at least they are hooky and you gotta like some bad music right?
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
12 Oct 2021, 10:18am
Yeah, metal ballads are bad, but at least they are hooky and you gotta like some bad music right?
There's bad music and then there's bad music, tho.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 Oct 2021, 11:24am
matedog wrote:
12 Oct 2021, 10:18am
Yeah, metal ballads are bad, but at least they are hooky and you gotta like some bad music right?
There's bad music and then there's bad music, tho.
Yeah. The bad music I like is bad in a way that at least feels morally corrupt instead of just weak tea.
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matedog wrote:
12 Oct 2021, 10:18am
Yeah, metal ballads are bad, but at least they are hooky and you gotta like some bad music right?
I read this as if Heston wrote it. But I guess it works either way.

Im on team Wolter.
Wolter wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 11:46pm
...
I want it known that while I’m an occasional metal apologist, metal ballads are godawful. I’m here for the headbanging, not some fucking thorny rose or silent lucidity.
I take it in smaller doses but if I need a brain reset Slayer's Reign in Blood album usually does the trick. Its like a my life is totally fucked up I need to clear my head.

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I'm on team "Diamonds and Rust."
Who pfaffed the pfaff? Who got pfaffed tonight?

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Olaf wrote:
13 Oct 2021, 7:33am
I'm on team "Diamonds and Rust."
Ok, that one owns.
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Olaf wrote:
13 Oct 2021, 7:33am
I'm on team "Diamonds and Rust."
Isn't that a modified cover of a Joan Baez song that's about Bob Dylan?
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WestwayKid wrote:
13 Oct 2021, 5:45pm
Olaf wrote:
13 Oct 2021, 7:33am
I'm on team "Diamonds and Rust."
Isn't that a modified cover of a Joan Baez song that's about Bob Dylan?
Yes.
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I accidentally turned on that video when I scrolled down the page and no thank you.
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Re: The KISS thread

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Hydraulic failure of almost Spinal Tap proportions but what is really bad is Paul's voice. Just fucking awful. Give up.

There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
13 Oct 2021, 9:37pm
Hydraulic failure of almost Spinal Tap proportions but what is really bad is Paul's voice. Just fucking awful. Give up.

I'm leaning more towards out of balance due to excessive weight. :mrgreen:
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An imbalance between the ego and the sores' ooze threw everything out of whack?
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