Public Image Limited

[Dr. Medulla]

Man, that's weird. You'd think the internet is growed up enough that web pages wouldn't vary that wildly depending on browser and OS.

It's the bane of my professional existence. Even FF and Chrome used to render things pretty much the same but they've been diverging from each other for years now.

Even for key action elements like a download button? That's seriously strange to me. I get if layout can be screwy, but outright omitting elements is nuts.

Yeah the built-in PDF viewers on browsers are mostly different, and completely missing in some browsers.

Curious that as the internet is more and more tamed and controlled by fewer and fewer companies that that kind of variation would persist.

[NoMoreHugh]

Ok so its definitely a chromebook issue as i have tested it on my windows Laptop and using both browsers Edge and chrome both were fine, Thinking about it i haven't downloaded any pdf dedicated software and just use the chromebooks pdf default program so that might be an issue but i am not going to download adobe to test that but its the chromebook initially that behaved differently. So if you are using a chromebook stick a "1" at the end of the link

[Dr. Medulla]

Tangentially related, it's amazing to me how many young people don't use dedicated pdf browsers. The past couple years, for obvious reasons, all student submissions have been pdf's, so my comments are all embedded stickies. And you can't open those if you use a web browser to read the document. Yet, despite my announcement to use a pdf browser, I always get student emails saying they can't read the comments. One of the great myths that just won't die is that young people know how to use computers. They don't. They aren't that far off from nana using Facebook as a search engine.

[Kory]

Man, that's weird. You'd think the internet is growed up enough that web pages wouldn't vary that wildly depending on browser and OS.

It's the bane of my professional existence. Even FF and Chrome used to render things pretty much the same but they've been diverging from each other for years now.

Even for key action elements like a download button? That's seriously strange to me. I get if layout can be screwy, but outright omitting elements is nuts.

Yeah the built-in PDF viewers on browsers are mostly different, and completely missing in some browsers.

Curious that as the internet is more and more tamed and controlled by fewer and fewer companies that that kind of variation would persist.

I know, it drives me to the brink of madness—the amount of extra work I have to put in to accommodate these different companies is such a time waster when they could all just agree on a standard instead.

[Kory]

Tangentially related, it's amazing to me how many young people don't use dedicated pdf browsers. The past couple years, for obvious reasons, all student submissions have been pdf's, so my comments are all embedded stickies. And you can't open those if you use a web browser to read the document. Yet, despite my announcement to use a pdf browser, I always get student emails saying they can't read the comments. One of the great myths that just won't die is that young people know how to use computers. They don't. They aren't that far off from nana using Facebook as a search engine.

They know how to use phones, but unless they're working in IT or programming, there's not much reason to know much else really.

[NoMoreHugh]

Ok lets get interesting now and play spot the difference taking in to account they are a screen shot of this site and of a photo i posted

On My Android phone i see this



On My chrome book i see this



How can a photo show different text on different devices i am not winding you up here really i am not

[Dr. Medulla]

Tangentially related, it's amazing to me how many young people don't use dedicated pdf browsers. The past couple years, for obvious reasons, all student submissions have been pdf's, so my comments are all embedded stickies. And you can't open those if you use a web browser to read the document. Yet, despite my announcement to use a pdf browser, I always get student emails saying they can't read the comments. One of the great myths that just won't die is that young people know how to use computers. They don't. They aren't that far off from nana using Facebook as a search engine.

They know how to use phones, but unless they're working in IT or programming, there's not much reason to know much else really.

Which is understandable, but there's this long-standing myth (maybe it's just in academia?) that because they've grown up with the tech they're savvy. And it's so not true.

[Dr. Medulla]

Ok lets get interesting now and play spot the difference taking in to account they are a screen shot of this site and of a photo i posted

On My Android phone i see this



On My chrome book i see this



How can a photo show different text on different devices i am not winding you up here really i am not

Bizarre. I rarely use my phone for internet stuff, so it's not something I've especially noticed.

[NoMoreHugh]

The thing is thats a photo that should be static we are not talking about dynamic code processing that can show differing results .

The first photo shows "Get App" the second shows "Share" now i am very confused how can it change the photo ???

[NoMoreHugh]

It suggests to me that the photo that it display back after i uploaded it to get the link must have embedded code in the photo

[Silent Majority]

New PiL song, a very nice love song to Nora, is aiming to be Ireland's entry to Eurovision.

[Dr. Medulla]

New PiL song, a very nice love song to Nora, is aiming to be Ireland's entry to Eurovision.

Whatever the sentiment and sincere expression of his love and concern, that's … that's not fit for public consumption. In construction or performance, it is not something that generates the emotions that he wants.

[Silent Majority]

New PiL song, a very nice love song to Nora, is aiming to be Ireland's entry to Eurovision.

Whatever the sentiment and sincere expression of his love and concern, that's … that's not fit for public consumption. In construction or performance, it is not something that generates the emotions that he wants.

Sentiment can easily miss the target, of course. It's total subjectivity, but I think the simplicity of the lyrics and the sweetness of the tune match the message of communicating with someone who's losing their comprehension.

[gkbill]

New PiL song, a very nice love song to Nora, is aiming to be Ireland's entry to Eurovision.

Whatever the sentiment and sincere expression of his love and concern, that's … that's not fit for public consumption. In construction or performance, it is not something that generates the emotions that he wants.

Hello,

I was just going to post this. John's trying to sing/croon. I don't think that's his strength.

[Dr. Medulla]

New PiL song, a very nice love song to Nora, is aiming to be Ireland's entry to Eurovision.

Whatever the sentiment and sincere expression of his love and concern, that's … that's not fit for public consumption. In construction or performance, it is not something that generates the emotions that he wants.

Sentiment can easily miss the target, of course. It's total subjectivity, but I think the simplicity of the lyrics and the sweetness of the tune match the message of communicating with someone who's losing their comprehension.

As gkbill suggests above, John's delivery does not play to his strengths, which hinders the effect, and the lyrics, to me, are first-draft quality. There's simplicity and then there's bland. It's one of those songs, given its intent, that might be better kept private. It shouldn't be scrutinized by assholes like me, but releasing it puts it in that realm.

It does, however, highlight that when she does pass, it's going to be devastating for that old bastard in a way that he hasn't experienced since, perhaps, his mother's death.