I just read this too and really liked it, probably more than the Spider-Man one. One thing struck me though—I thought Reed and Ben were friends from college, but in this book Johnny is the one that bring Ben in. Is this some artistic license, or am I incorrect on the origin story?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 12:21pm
Read this issue by issue when it came out, but now sitting down to read the whole thing at once. I think it has a claim to being one of the very best FF stories. Like the Spider-man Life Story series, it reimagines Marvel heroes aging in real time, and follows them decade by decade. In this version, the moment that the four are exposed to cosmic rays, Reed Richards has a vision of Galactus coming to destroy Earth and devotes the rest of his life to preparing for that moment. It's obsession that is heroic and self-destructive.
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Yup, that's a notable change. In the conventional account, Reed and Ben met in college (I think they were assigned as dormmates?) and, I think, both served in the Korean War.Kory wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 1:36pmI just read this too and really liked it, probably more than the Spider-Man one. One thing struck me though—I thought Reed and Ben were friends from college, but in this book Johnny is the one that bring Ben in. Is this some artistic license, or am I incorrect on the origin story?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 12:21pm
Read this issue by issue when it came out, but now sitting down to read the whole thing at once. I think it has a claim to being one of the very best FF stories. Like the Spider-man Life Story series, it reimagines Marvel heroes aging in real time, and follows them decade by decade. In this version, the moment that the four are exposed to cosmic rays, Reed Richards has a vision of Galactus coming to destroy Earth and devotes the rest of his life to preparing for that moment. It's obsession that is heroic and self-destructive.
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Ok, thanks for confirming. I thought my knowledge of Marvel origin stories was becoming questionable, and we all know where that leads.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 1:55pmYup, that's a notable change. In the conventional account, Reed and Ben met in college (I think they were assigned as dormmates?) and, I think, both served in the Korean War.Kory wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 1:36pmI just read this too and really liked it, probably more than the Spider-Man one. One thing struck me though—I thought Reed and Ben were friends from college, but in this book Johnny is the one that bring Ben in. Is this some artistic license, or am I incorrect on the origin story?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 12:21pm
Read this issue by issue when it came out, but now sitting down to read the whole thing at once. I think it has a claim to being one of the very best FF stories. Like the Spider-man Life Story series, it reimagines Marvel heroes aging in real time, and follows them decade by decade. In this version, the moment that the four are exposed to cosmic rays, Reed Richards has a vision of Galactus coming to destroy Earth and devotes the rest of his life to preparing for that moment. It's obsession that is heroic and self-destructive.
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Speaking of reading comics, I've pretty much abandoned my Daredevil immersion. I'm maybe a year and a half into Chichester's stories and, fucking hell, I am bored silly. Honestly, DD has been plagued by awful writers (and artists) over the years. A fantastic character who gets dumped into tedious "gritty" street stories or *sigh* ninjas ninjas ninjas.
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Chichester did not do him justice, it's true. The art for Fall from Grace is really unique and fun to look, at but it's a slog and a half to actually read. Are you not going to just skip ahead to Bendis, Brubaker and them (skipping Diggle, of course)? The post-Waid Chip Zdarsky stuff has been pretty good. I know the Marvel Knights era bugs you for the old standby of fucking up Murdock's life, but I think it's reasonably well-written at least (particularly Brubaker).Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 2:29pmSpeaking of reading comics, I've pretty much abandoned my Daredevil immersion. I'm maybe a year and a half into Chichester's stories and, fucking hell, I am bored silly. Honestly, DD has been plagued by awful writers (and artists) over the years. A fantastic character who gets dumped into tedious "gritty" street stories or *sigh* ninjas ninjas ninjas.
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I started reading DD originally when Kevin Smith killed Karen Page and have been steady since. Really liked Bendis and Waid, but the others have been pretty meh to me (a rare case where Brubaker's writing didn't wow me). I keep at it, but more often than not, I don't get terribly invested in the story. This reading I've been doing has made me appreciate Waid's lighter interpretation all the more.Kory wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 3:08pmChichester did not do him justice, it's true. The art for Fall from Grace is really unique and fun to look, at but it's a slog and a half to actually read. Are you not going to just skip ahead to Bendis, Brubaker and them (skipping Diggle, of course)? The post-Waid Chip Zdarsky stuff has been pretty good. I know the Marvel Knights era bugs you for the old standby of fucking up Murdock's life, but I think it's reasonably well-written at least (particularly Brubaker).Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 2:29pmSpeaking of reading comics, I've pretty much abandoned my Daredevil immersion. I'm maybe a year and a half into Chichester's stories and, fucking hell, I am bored silly. Honestly, DD has been plagued by awful writers (and artists) over the years. A fantastic character who gets dumped into tedious "gritty" street stories or *sigh* ninjas ninjas ninjas.
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In the 80s, in my early teens and at the height of the ninja movie craze, I took some Tae Kwon Do classes, bought throwing stars from the flea market, and I’d occasionally buy various martial arts magazines from the local corner shop. I remember reading a fairly convincing article about how FDR was killed by ninjas. I’ve chosen to accept it as factual history.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 2:29pmSpeaking of reading comics, I've pretty much abandoned my Daredevil immersion. I'm maybe a year and a half into Chichester's stories and, fucking hell, I am bored silly. Honestly, DD has been plagued by awful writers (and artists) over the years. A fantastic character who gets dumped into tedious "gritty" street stories or *sigh* ninjas ninjas ninjas.
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I really only keep up with X-titles anymore, and those are starting to vary pretty wildly in quality. I like that there are so many mutant characters, but it means they need to have a jillion titles just to satisfy every reader's need to see their favorite character. Makes me wish I was more into FF or something else that just has the one book (though I do like them, and I've heard the recent Dan Slott stuff is pretty good—it's just that nothing will replace X-Men as my primary interest). I'm subscribed to both current DD and Dr. Strange, but I haven't had the motivation yet to actually read them.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 3:46pmI started reading DD originally when Kevin Smith killed Karen Page and have been steady since. Really liked Bendis and Waid, but the others have been pretty meh to me (a rare case where Brubaker's writing didn't wow me). I keep at it, but more often than not, I don't get terribly invested in the story. This reading I've been doing has made me appreciate Waid's lighter interpretation all the more.Kory wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 3:08pmChichester did not do him justice, it's true. The art for Fall from Grace is really unique and fun to look, at but it's a slog and a half to actually read. Are you not going to just skip ahead to Bendis, Brubaker and them (skipping Diggle, of course)? The post-Waid Chip Zdarsky stuff has been pretty good. I know the Marvel Knights era bugs you for the old standby of fucking up Murdock's life, but I think it's reasonably well-written at least (particularly Brubaker).Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 2:29pmSpeaking of reading comics, I've pretty much abandoned my Daredevil immersion. I'm maybe a year and a half into Chichester's stories and, fucking hell, I am bored silly. Honestly, DD has been plagued by awful writers (and artists) over the years. A fantastic character who gets dumped into tedious "gritty" street stories or *sigh* ninjas ninjas ninjas.
The real quality is in non-Marvel/DC books, so that's where I spend most of my money.
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I want this to be true in the worst way.Kimmelweck wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 3:49pmI remember reading a fairly convincing article about how FDR was killed by ninjas. I’ve chosen to accept it as factual history.
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I read (i.e., pirate) Spider-man, FF, DD, and Captain America, albeit more out of habit than genuine enjoyment. Of them all, Spider-man has been the best of late, but I'm not exactly panting for more. The main thing that I want is to be excited for the next issue to find out what happens next, but I rarely get that with contemporary comics. Honestly, Brubaker/Phillips are the only people in the comics biz that generate legit excitement for me.Kory wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 4:15pmI really only keep up with X-titles anymore, and those are starting to vary pretty wildly in quality. I like that there are so many mutant characters, but it means they need to have a jillion titles just to satisfy every reader's need to see their favorite character. Makes me wish I was more into FF or something else that just has the one book (though I do like them, and I've heard the recent Dan Slott stuff is pretty good—it's just that nothing will replace X-Men as my primary interest). I'm subscribed to both current DD and Dr. Strange, but I haven't had the motivation yet to actually read them.
The real quality is in non-Marvel/DC books, so that's where I spend most of my money.
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A ninja made him smoke ninety a day.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 4:17pmI want this to be true in the worst way.Kimmelweck wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 3:49pmI remember reading a fairly convincing article about how FDR was killed by ninjas. I’ve chosen to accept it as factual history.
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Ninjas are sneaky like that.Silent Majority wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 4:34pmA ninja made him smoke ninety a day.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 4:17pmI want this to be true in the worst way.Kimmelweck wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 3:49pmI remember reading a fairly convincing article about how FDR was killed by ninjas. I’ve chosen to accept it as factual history.
edit – Although if I remember correctly, it was the ol’ poisoned blow dart to the chest. Same thing really.
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I assume this is the story: https://historyofyesterday.com/franklin ... se-defeat/
A friend and colleague is an FDR scholar, so I'm obliged to pass this on to completely wreck his syllabus.
A friend and colleague is an FDR scholar, so I'm obliged to pass this on to completely wreck his syllabus.
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Ha, that’s gotta be it! Can’t believe you found that. I recalled a blow dart to the chest, but I guess it was to the back of the head. I read about it around 36 years ago, so my memory is a little vague.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 4:47pmI assume this is the story: https://historyofyesterday.com/franklin ... se-defeat/
A friend and colleague is an FDR scholar, so I'm obliged to pass this on to completely wreck his syllabus.
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First hit googling "fdr ninjas." Dystopia aside, the internet demonstrates its worth.Kimmelweck wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 5:06pmHa, that’s gotta be it! Can’t believe you found that. I recalled a blow dart to the chest, but I guess it was to the back of the head. I read about it around 36 years ago, so my memory is a little vague.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 4:47pmI assume this is the story: https://historyofyesterday.com/franklin ... se-defeat/
A friend and colleague is an FDR scholar, so I'm obliged to pass this on to completely wreck his syllabus.
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