Flex's Takes: The Beach Boys
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Last Beach Boys post of the night - I finished the Carl Wilson bio and it wasn't terribly insightful or interesting. There was a bit of overall BBs history that was elaborated on for me, but like 80% of the book is to 1969 and 95% is to 1979. The last eight pages of the book cover 1984-1998 which I'm obviously obsessed with. So not much new there. Other than there is still no clear date on when his last show with the band. They talk about a show in August but then mention a show in November.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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I am genuinely pleased at how this thread has increasingly become Hoy Marinates in Being Appalled by the Beach Boys. It's must-reading for me.
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Oof. It's been awhile since I've heard this one. Yeah, really awful. It's not even listenable easy listening.matedog wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 4:34pmGood god, this is one of the worst Beach Boys songs I've ever heard:WestwayKid wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 11:42amProduced by Alan Jardine. The album smacks of his awe shocks brand of shininess.
Recorded in Fairfield, Iowa at Maharishi International University (sounds like a fun place). Chosen (of course) by Mike in an attempt to keep the band (Brian, Carl, and Dennis) away from illicit substances. Carl and Dennis were mostly MIA from MIU and while Brian stuck it out longer, but was by most accounts miserable.
It's easy listening, devoid of soul. An attempt to recapture their past.
When asked about the album, Dennis said: "I hope that karma will f**k up Mike Love's meditation forever. That album is an embarrassment to my life. It should self-destruct."
It has a few listenable tracks, but quickly descends into schlock.
It's not "Happy Endings" bad and at least John Phillips or Charles Manson weren't involved, but ugh!
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It was August 29th in Atlantic City. David Marks rejoined in early October to cover Carl's spot.matedog wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 1:01amLast Beach Boys post of the night - I finished the Carl Wilson bio and it wasn't terribly insightful or interesting. There was a bit of overall BBs history that was elaborated on for me, but like 80% of the book is to 1969 and 95% is to 1979. The last eight pages of the book cover 1984-1998 which I'm obviously obsessed with. So not much new there. Other than there is still no clear date on when his last show with the band. They talk about a show in August but then mention a show in November.
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You've all been warned (because you can easily lose yourself down the rabbit hole), but in case you've never visited this site... lots of interesting stuff, all compiled by BB historian Andrew Doe.
http://www.bellagio10452.com/
http://www.bellagio10452.com/
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Okay that makes sense. Per set list.fm, they stopped playing God Only Knows around then though the lists are incomplete at that time. Apparently they played it a couple times in late 98. I wonder who the hell took that lead.WestwayKid wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 9:33amIt was August 29th in Atlantic City. David Marks rejoined in early October to cover Carl's spot.matedog wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 1:01amLast Beach Boys post of the night - I finished the Carl Wilson bio and it wasn't terribly insightful or interesting. There was a bit of overall BBs history that was elaborated on for me, but like 80% of the book is to 1969 and 95% is to 1979. The last eight pages of the book cover 1984-1998 which I'm obviously obsessed with. So not much new there. Other than there is still no clear date on when his last show with the band. They talk about a show in August but then mention a show in November.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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I honestly didn’t expect to bring Marlene #1 back into the mix, but here we are, L.A. (Light Album).Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 9:24amI am genuinely pleased at how this thread has increasingly become Hoy Marinates in Being Appalled by the Beach Boys. It's must-reading for me.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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The deep horrible truth of all expressive writing: it's all autobiography. It always reveals more about the critic than the critiqued.matedog wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 9:43amI honestly didn’t expect to bring Marlene #1 back into the mix, but here we are, L.A. (Light Album).Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 9:24amI am genuinely pleased at how this thread has increasingly become Hoy Marinates in Being Appalled by the Beach Boys. It's must-reading for me.
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Good question. Adrian Baker rejoined the touring band around that time so he'd be a good guess or maybe Matt Jardine??matedog wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 9:36amOkay that makes sense. Per set list.fm, they stopped playing God Only Knows around then though the lists are incomplete at that time. Apparently they played it a couple times in late 98. I wonder who the hell took that lead.WestwayKid wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 9:33amIt was August 29th in Atlantic City. David Marks rejoined in early October to cover Carl's spot.matedog wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 1:01amLast Beach Boys post of the night - I finished the Carl Wilson bio and it wasn't terribly insightful or interesting. There was a bit of overall BBs history that was elaborated on for me, but like 80% of the book is to 1969 and 95% is to 1979. The last eight pages of the book cover 1984-1998 which I'm obviously obsessed with. So not much new there. Other than there is still no clear date on when his last show with the band. They talk about a show in August but then mention a show in November.
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Wow, I'm surprised there is information on that site past like 2002 from the way it looks. But very thorough.WestwayKid wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 9:35amYou've all been warned (because you can easily lose yourself down the rabbit hole), but in case you've never visited this site... lots of interesting stuff, all compiled by BB historian Andrew Doe.
http://www.bellagio10452.com/
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Thinking about Carl's death and his final shows with the band, it's worth remembering that the band itself was in real flux in early 1998. The Mike Show toured not as the Beach Boys, but as both The California Beach Band and America's Band. This was because he didn't have the license to perform as the Beach Boys - which was controlled by Brother Records (Mike, Al, Carl, Brian). With Carl's death and with Al being in/out of the group, it was no longer as simple as majority rules in regards to the license. Mike had to apply for it - and it was granted in July. It's also worth pointing out that Brian was offered the use of the name as well, but he turned it down.
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This just seems so much better than anything they put out in at least the mid-70s (still have to dive into the early 70s material which is supposedly better). It's a bit overproduced, but Dennis' vocals are a terrific juxtaposition.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
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God, what a mess, on the ladder of success
Where you take one step and miss the whole first rung
Where you take one step and miss the whole first rung